Friday, August 12, 2011

The Debt Limit Debate Is It Over?


As the accompanying article from the Hillsdale College website indicates, the debate has just started and will continue until we get some positive resolution of the crisis or the end of the United States as we know it. Current spending cannot continue so we will need to make a decision either to changes to what programs we fund and which ones need to be cut or to be prepared to become a third world country. Those are the choices, what is your decision?

I am for cutting spending back to 1950 levels. Massive elimination of programs which do not produce or are unnecessary. It will be painful and will cause much anger and angst.  However, if we make the changes it will be much better than letting an outside force (China) make them for us. (Of course, then the politicians could claim "It was forced on us, we had no choice.")

The debate will continue and hopefully we will make the right decisions.


"The Debt Limit Debate Has Just Begun" 
By Gary WolframWilliam Simon Professor of Economics and Public Policy
Hillsdale College
Article originally posted on Ricochet.com
The deal which raised the debt ceiling did not meet with the stock market rally that some had expected.  This was in large part because, despite the media hype, the markets knew that the U.S. was not going to default on its debt obligations.  The fact that 10 year Treasuries were yielding around two and a half percent indicates that the markets were aware that the U.S. always had enough revenue to make interest payments on our bonds and to refinance maturing debt.   
Without further borrowing ability the Treasury would not have been able to make all payments due, however.  A choice would have had to be made as to whether Social Security payments would be delayed, Medicare providers’ checks would be reduced, or government vendors would not get paid on time.  But given the 14th amendment’s provision that the validity of the debt of the United States shall not be questioned, it is almost certain that U.S. Treasury bondholders would have been paid. 
Who would not have been paid would have been a political choice.  AARP reported that its members “flooded the White House and the halls of Congress with 557,249 letters and 387,018 phone calls.”  This might give an indication that the politically correct thing for the President to do would have been to reduce and delay Social Security payments that are received by 60 million Americans, and blame it on the “Tea Party Republicans.”  While the President would appear on prime time national television to make his point, the Speaker of the House would have had a hard time beating out The Voice to give his response.
In 1995-96 I took a leave from Hillsdale College to be Congressman Nick Smith’s chief of staff.  A similar battle was taking place with the newly elected House Republican majority and President Bill Clinton.  The Republicans had control of the Senate as well and sent a balanced budget and debt ceiling increase to President Clinton, who vetoed it.  The federal government was temporarily shut down and President Clinton was able to win the issue politically.  Newt Gingrich ended up losing his position as Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole was firmly trounced by Clinton in the 1996 election.
Given the political realities, including that the Republicans only control one House this time, the outcome of the debt limit legislation was as good a deal as was going to be made.  The gain, however, was not in the details of the deal itself, other than it avoided raising taxes, but in pushing to the front pages of America the fact that federal government spending is not sustainable.
Friedrich Hayek wrote in The Constitution of Liberty that a primary benefit of democracy is that debate over the issues will advance the state of knowledge.  The “intransigence of the Tea Party Republicans” accomplished what it needed to—push the debate on federal government spending into the national spotlight.
The debt ceiling legislation does little to address the unsustainable degree of federal government spending, particularly in entitlement programs.  The media has trumpeted the “cuts” by adding them up over ten years.  For example, we know that the basics of the deal are about $1 trillion in cuts from discretionary spending, and then the Super Committee will find another $1.2 trillion in deficit reductions.  To put this in perspective, the Congressional Budget Office projects federal spending over the next decade to exceed $50 trillion. Little wonder that the markets did not rally in the face of the deal.
What this all means, however, is that the debate over federal spending has at least begun.  Most Americans now realize that the national debt is in excess of $14.3 trillion, and that Medicare and Social Security, as well as Medicaid, are in an unsustainable position.  What is vital is that those who believe in a limited federal government and in the importance of freedom keep the debate alive by noting that nothing has been done yet to address the long run unfunded liabilities of Social Security and Medicare. 
It is not sustainable for Americans over the age of 62 to expect their retirement and health care to be paid for by someone else for the final 20 to 30 years of their life.  Common sense tells us that this cannot possibly happen.  The debt limit debate has forced our Congressmen to admit to this.  The next step is to address the problem.

Gary Wolfram is William Simon Professor of Economics and Public Policy at Hillsdale College and President of Hillsdale Policy Group, a consulting firm specializing in taxation and policy analysis. His public policy experience includes serving as Congressman Nick Smith's Chief of Staff, Michigan’s Deputy State Treasurer for Taxation and Economic Policy under Governor John Engler, and Senior Economist to the Republican Senate in Michigan.

4 comments:

  1. "Current spending cannot continue so we will need to make a decision either to changes to what programs we fund and which ones need to be cut or to be prepared to become a third world country. Those are the choices, what is your decision?"

    Are those are the ONLY choices, or are they the only choices that you support? I believe that cuts can be made, but not at the expense of those who benefit most from those programs. Cuts alone won't fix all of our problems. But if you offset cuts with revenue increases on those who currently don't pay the rates that are legally required to, you can fix this easier.

    I am not advocating raising taxes on people making less than $50,000, $100,000 or even $1,000,000, I want corporations to pay the 30ish percent that the tax code is written for and not the 10-15% that they actually pay. If someone can afford a private jet, or a 5th house then they can afford to be paying their share. If they can't afford to pay 5% more on these things, then they need to get a new accountant and a real estate agent to sell their 5th vacation home.

    -R

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  2. R--I disagree with a couple things you said. First, in the United States no one is "legally required" to pay any rate. Rates are set but there are deductions that are available to individuals (home mortgage deduction, IRA are examples) and businesses (salaries, benefits, depreciation are examples).

    Secondly, I believe that NO taxes should be paid by corporations. Instead, they should have to pay out a certain percentage of profits in dividends. The receipients of the dividends then would have to pay the taxes. This would be good for two reasons. First, it would recover and allow taxation of trillions of dollars from overseas operations of US companies. Secondly,
    individuals, pension plans, and 401(k) plans would benefit from the dollars that are held overseas.
    If we use the 30% tax rate, it would make our corporate taxes the highest in the world and even more dollars would be caught out of the US. It will force those domestic companies to explore foreign markets to move some or all of their operations to other countries. This would be very counterproductive.

    As far as "paying their fair share" the top 10% of taxpayers pay 80% of the total taxes. Do you want them to pay 100% of their income? Would that be more fair? Should they be limited to $100,000 of income? Does it make any difference if they have invested money to create a business?

    Most high income earners are not the corporate execs that we hear about. They are instead people who created a business. An example would be Bill Gates. He did not inherit any money, he created a business. Should he give up all his money to fund our excess spending on Chinese hooker education or bridges to nowhere?

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  3. You might find this interesting…

    http://img.slate.com/media/3/100914_NoahT_GreatDivergence.pdf

    Note the similarity in this graph for the Great Depression of 1929 and the Great Recession of 2008. We have an economy driven by consumer demand. Extreme income inequality (i.e., top 10% earn 50% of all income in 1928 and 2008) reduces consumer demand because, once the consumer exhausts his credit cards and home equity, he no longer has the money to make so many purchases. And without demand, companies have less incentive to expand and hire workers. That is the fundamental issue we have now with the economy and unemployment.

    --David

    P.S. How about Ron Paul nearly beating Bachmann in the Iowa poll? Still, he is ignored by both mainstream Republican and media commentaries. It makes it hard for him to win when both of them keep insisting that he can't.

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  4. This graph is even more interesting....

    http://www.tobinproject.org/conference_economic/papers/BankFailures_ChartwithComments_Moss.pdf

    This one show the close relationships between banking deregulation, bank failures, inequality, and the collapse of the U.S. economy in 1929 and 2008. I find the pattern very striking.

    It is also why I think it insane to not ask Wall Street to help us pay for the debt THEY created (with a lot of help from the federal government).

    --David

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