We mostly hear that "no one needs large capacity magazines unless someone is going on a killing spree." In some cases that might be right, however, in the following article Bob Livingston makes a valid point to the contrary and we believe it is worth considering.
Another instance of the use of the proper use of "assault weapons" was the LA riots that occurred after the Rodney King verdict. During this insurrection, Korean business people protected their property from the roving gangs with (horror of all horrors) these guns. Had they not had access to them, how much more damage would have happened? We suspect lots.
No tool is ever totally bad or good. Hammers can pound nails but they can also be used to kill. The same goes for screw drivers. Should we also ban these?
Why are we not talking about the thousands that die due to car accidents and drug abuse? What about the numbers who die from legal medicine abuse? Politicians are ignoring the big numbers and dealing with the minor ones and there is only one reason. Those in charge want to disarm the American people. There can be no other rationale. It is not about the kids. It is not about Sandy Hook--that was only an excuse for the latest attack on ALL of our rights.
Don't be fooled, there is a plan and it is not related to "assault weapons", it is about all guns! Once Americans are unarmed, the government can ram anything down our throats and we will have NO way to fight back.
Just like the flash mobs that run rampant and wipe out stores, the government will do exactly the same thing as they are no different than those who steal for a living.
Be Scared, Be Very Scared.
Conservative Tom
Another instance of the use of the proper use of "assault weapons" was the LA riots that occurred after the Rodney King verdict. During this insurrection, Korean business people protected their property from the roving gangs with (horror of all horrors) these guns. Had they not had access to them, how much more damage would have happened? We suspect lots.
No tool is ever totally bad or good. Hammers can pound nails but they can also be used to kill. The same goes for screw drivers. Should we also ban these?
Why are we not talking about the thousands that die due to car accidents and drug abuse? What about the numbers who die from legal medicine abuse? Politicians are ignoring the big numbers and dealing with the minor ones and there is only one reason. Those in charge want to disarm the American people. There can be no other rationale. It is not about the kids. It is not about Sandy Hook--that was only an excuse for the latest attack on ALL of our rights.
Don't be fooled, there is a plan and it is not related to "assault weapons", it is about all guns! Once Americans are unarmed, the government can ram anything down our throats and we will have NO way to fight back.
Just like the flash mobs that run rampant and wipe out stores, the government will do exactly the same thing as they are no different than those who steal for a living.
Be Scared, Be Very Scared.
Conservative Tom
Yes, People ‘Need’ Large-Capacity Magazines
February 7, 2013 by Bob Livingston
SCREENSHOT
Violent, thieving mobs — called flash mobs because they spring up almost instantaneously, loot and ransack a business and disperse within a minute or two — have been seen across the country over the past several years. Not surprisingly, they’ve now made their way into New York City.
Newsstand and convenience store owners in New York say the mobs of 20, 30, 40 or more are hitting their establishments regularly, stealing merchandise, damaging property and injuring customers.
“They assemble, they do whatever it is they’re going to do, and then they disassemble in a matter minutes. By the time somebody recognizes what is happening or is injured, if the police are able to respond, it is slow,” Jon Shane, assistant professor of criminal justice at John Jay College told CBS New York.
Raj Shmara owns a newsstand at Broadway at 55th Street. Shmara said his newsstand has been targeted seven different times by mobs of teens. During an attack just last week, the kids threw a bottle at an employee who had to be hospitalized. Watching a video of the mob attack is frightening. Dozens of youths crawl over one another like a pack of dogs scuffling over one food bowl.
New York business owners are trying to “protect themselves” by installing surveillance cameras because they say they aren’t getting any help from New York police.
And, of course, thanks to the recently passed New York gun control legislation, New York business owners can’t really protect themselves. Scary-looking black semi-automatic personal defense weapons with large magazines are now banned in the city because the State’s government decided no one “needs” a weapon with a large-capacity magazine.
A gun now legal in New York with a magazine holding only seven rounds wouldn’t be sufficient to take out a third of some of those mobs. But a store owner holding an AR-15 with a 30-round mag and another at his side would serve as a great deterrent to a mob of 20, 30 or 40 thugs.
Assuming the flash mob is unarmed and not threatening the life of the storeowner or other customers, if the owner pulls out an AR-15 and kills 20-30 people, he will be facing murder charges.
ReplyDelete--David
So I assume you think it is fine for the flash mob to ransack a business and not face any retribution?
ReplyDeleteSo if I come into your house and steal your Hope Diamond, that is ok if I am not threatening you?
David, your argument is foolhardy.
That is a ridiculous misrepresentation of what I said. There is nothing "fine" about a flash mob coming into the store to steal merchandise. That is criminal behavior. Nevertheless, if they are unarmed and not threatening the life of the storeowner or customers and the storeowner pulls out a AR-15 and slaughters 20-30 people, he will be facing murder charges. That is what I said, and if you would like to respond to it, then respond to what I wrote rather than putting words in my mouth. Thank you.
ReplyDelete--David
How do you know they are not threatening the storeowner? If they are stealing his stuff, he has the right to protect his stuff. Same at home.
ReplyDeleteIf the mob turned on him and then he shot 20-30 then he would not face charges as he was in fear of his life.
The same goes for at home. If you shoot someone in the back as they are exiting your house, you can be brought up on charges, however, if he is coming at you, you are allowed to respond with deadly force as you were in fear for your life.
Your idea that someone would just pull out a gun and start shooting 20-30 people is ludicrous. It is only the crazy who do that unless he was in fear of his life.
I seriously doubt that in rural Washington you have ever been in a situation where a flash mob was in your face. If you had,you would not be as cavalier about it.
Our point was that there are times when having a weapon available to defend yourself is important. The LA riots is a great example. The flash mobs, depending upon what threat you feel is another.
One last point, law abiding citizens are the only ones that will be effected by these laws, not the criminals as they will get their guns from the government ala fast and furious. Stop stepping on our rights!
The storeowner has a right to self defense. We agree on that. However, if their only purpose is to steal merchandise and they are unarmed and not physically threatening him or other customers, then he has no legal right to kill 20-30 of them. He would not necessarily need to be fearing for his life to do it. He may just go emotionally out of control with rage seeing them walking out of his store with $10,000 worth of his merchandise. He has a right to own the AR-15, but not the right to use it except in self-defense.
ReplyDelete--David