We usually don't quote Mother Jones as they are on the other side of the spectrum, however, the following story, although poo-pooed by Madam Jones, might have legs. Could Obama really have established hit squads to take out people and would they prepare another "Sandy Hook" type event to push their anti-gun agenda? We would not put much past the Dictator, so...
What are your opinions?
Conservative Tom
P.S. If we are "hit" you will know that the story was accurate!
The Latest Right-Wing Conspiracy Theory: Obama Death Squads Targeting Gun Rights Activists
—By Stephanie Mencimer
Tue Feb. 5, 2013 7:55 AM PST126.John Noveske, one of the alleged victims of Obama's alleged death squads What do you get when you combine the president's ability to secretly kill American citizens and the recent push to restrict gun access? One of the most bizarre anti-Obama conspiracy theories ever—and it takes a lot to win that prize.
Various tea party activists, libertarian websites and other conspiracy-minded Obama haters are claiming that Russian security forces have discovered that Obama is about to unleash "death squads" across America to assassinate defenders of the Second Amendment. According to Liberty.com, one of the sites perpetuating this latest story, Russian intelligence has outlined the whole nefarious plot in a memo for President Vladimir Putin, detailing the Obama's administration's dispatch of "VIPER teams...which is the acronym for Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response Team, a programme run by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and whose agents terrify millions of Americans with Nazi-like Gestapo tactics on a daily basis at airports and who report to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)."
Liberty.com (run by a Florida tea party leader), which echoes the theory promoted by similar sites, maintains that these teams—800 of them, to be precise—are set to "disperse throughout his country in preparation for what Russian intelligence analysts are predicting to be a series of high-profile killings of dissident Americans set to begin as soon as February 22nd." Obama has apparently been emboldened to launch such an operation by the recent federal court ruling upholding his right to kill American citizens with drone strikes without explaining why.
This supposed Russian memo purportedly identifies two gun rights activists who already have been murdered by Obama's death squads: John Noveske, the owner of Noveske Rifleworks, which makes assault weapons, and Keith Ratliff, a cult sensation for his work on FPSRussian, a popular YouTube video channel devoted to high-power weapons and explosives.
Both men were, in fact, killed last month in separate incidents. Noveske died after his 1984 Land Rover crossed the center line in Grants Pass, Oregon and hit some boulders. He wasn't wearing a seat belt and was ejected from the vehicle.
Ratliff's body was found at a weapons testing and developing facility he operated in rural Georgia, among piles of firearms, with a single gunshot to the head. His death has indeed been ruled a homicide. A European site promoting this conspiracy theory reports:
By assassinating Noveske and Ratliff, FSB [Russian] intelligence analysts in this report say, the Obama regime is sending a "chilling message" to all who oppose their plan to totally disarm the American people that they "will stop at nothing" to see their master plan implemented.
Even worse, this report warns, is "new evidence" coming from the United States that the Obama regime is planning another "mass carnage" type event to occur within the next few weeks to bolster their spurious claim that Americans need to be disarmed.
After reading these shocking reports, I called the Russian embassy in Washington, DC, to investigate further. The press office did not return my call, so clearly it all must be true.
Or here's another option: The conspiracy theorists and anti-Obama activists warning of impending death squads could have fallen for a pretty obvious hoax. They don't, after all, seem to have an actual copy of the alleged Russian security memo to Putin. And there's this: WhatDoesItMean.com was one of the earliest promoters of this "story," and it's an infamous conspiracy and "alternative news" site that is the source of hundreds of fictional doomsday reports. (It once published a story claiming that the earthquake in Haiti was caused by erroneous weapons testing by the US Navy.) Liberty.com and other sites have been quoting directly from WhatDoesItMean.com. So perhaps gun-rights activists should relax; they've got nothing more menacing to worry about than the pending legislation on Capitol Hill.
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What are your opinions?
Conservative Tom
P.S. If we are "hit" you will know that the story was accurate!
The Latest Right-Wing Conspiracy Theory: Obama Death Squads Targeting Gun Rights Activists
—By Stephanie Mencimer
Tue Feb. 5, 2013 7:55 AM PST126.John Noveske, one of the alleged victims of Obama's alleged death squads What do you get when you combine the president's ability to secretly kill American citizens and the recent push to restrict gun access? One of the most bizarre anti-Obama conspiracy theories ever—and it takes a lot to win that prize.
Various tea party activists, libertarian websites and other conspiracy-minded Obama haters are claiming that Russian security forces have discovered that Obama is about to unleash "death squads" across America to assassinate defenders of the Second Amendment. According to Liberty.com, one of the sites perpetuating this latest story, Russian intelligence has outlined the whole nefarious plot in a memo for President Vladimir Putin, detailing the Obama's administration's dispatch of "VIPER teams...which is the acronym for Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response Team, a programme run by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and whose agents terrify millions of Americans with Nazi-like Gestapo tactics on a daily basis at airports and who report to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)."
Liberty.com (run by a Florida tea party leader), which echoes the theory promoted by similar sites, maintains that these teams—800 of them, to be precise—are set to "disperse throughout his country in preparation for what Russian intelligence analysts are predicting to be a series of high-profile killings of dissident Americans set to begin as soon as February 22nd." Obama has apparently been emboldened to launch such an operation by the recent federal court ruling upholding his right to kill American citizens with drone strikes without explaining why.
This supposed Russian memo purportedly identifies two gun rights activists who already have been murdered by Obama's death squads: John Noveske, the owner of Noveske Rifleworks, which makes assault weapons, and Keith Ratliff, a cult sensation for his work on FPSRussian, a popular YouTube video channel devoted to high-power weapons and explosives.
Both men were, in fact, killed last month in separate incidents. Noveske died after his 1984 Land Rover crossed the center line in Grants Pass, Oregon and hit some boulders. He wasn't wearing a seat belt and was ejected from the vehicle.
Ratliff's body was found at a weapons testing and developing facility he operated in rural Georgia, among piles of firearms, with a single gunshot to the head. His death has indeed been ruled a homicide. A European site promoting this conspiracy theory reports:
By assassinating Noveske and Ratliff, FSB [Russian] intelligence analysts in this report say, the Obama regime is sending a "chilling message" to all who oppose their plan to totally disarm the American people that they "will stop at nothing" to see their master plan implemented.
Even worse, this report warns, is "new evidence" coming from the United States that the Obama regime is planning another "mass carnage" type event to occur within the next few weeks to bolster their spurious claim that Americans need to be disarmed.
After reading these shocking reports, I called the Russian embassy in Washington, DC, to investigate further. The press office did not return my call, so clearly it all must be true.
Or here's another option: The conspiracy theorists and anti-Obama activists warning of impending death squads could have fallen for a pretty obvious hoax. They don't, after all, seem to have an actual copy of the alleged Russian security memo to Putin. And there's this: WhatDoesItMean.com was one of the earliest promoters of this "story," and it's an infamous conspiracy and "alternative news" site that is the source of hundreds of fictional doomsday reports. (It once published a story claiming that the earthquake in Haiti was caused by erroneous weapons testing by the US Navy.) Liberty.com and other sites have been quoting directly from WhatDoesItMean.com. So perhaps gun-rights activists should relax; they've got nothing more menacing to worry about than the pending legislation on Capitol Hill.
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Are you still claiming that you don't repost every Obama conspiracy theory that comes up? Show me one you filtered that is more preposterous than this one!
ReplyDelete--David
Did you even read the source? It was Mother Jones, far from a conservative rag?
ReplyDeleteSo I assume that David feels like all of these deaths (starting with Breitbart) are all coincidences? That nothing ties them together?
David might be right, however, part of an informed public is to search out and expose ideas to the light. If we hide these concerns, if they turn out to be true, are we not contributing to the problem?
Some Germans (even those living near the camps) did not show any concern about what was going on inside the concentration camps. They were told they were labor camps and that is what they believed.
The minority did not believe and they were the ones that were criticized and called nuts!
Personally, I would rather be called a nut 1000 times and be right on once, than not ever consider what might be occurring.
The source is some unnamed Russian. Then, if you look at the claim, it goes like this...
ReplyDelete1. Some guy got murdered.
2. He was a pro-gun activist.
3. Therefore, Obama must have ordered this guy killed.
This is just plain stupid.
--David
Keep laughing as they come and get your gun!
ReplyDeleteNobody is coming to get my guns, and we both know it. The proof that you don't really believe any of this Obama conspiracy nonsense is that I can't get you to even put down a modest $20 bet on ANY of this stuff.
ReplyDelete--David
The California legislature just had measures introduced to seize all assault weapons and to require every gun owner to get gun safety training every year except every five. If they don't, their guns are seized.
ReplyDeleteCalifornia usually leads the way on issues. Now that their laws have been surpassed by New York, they want to pass even more restrtictive laws.
How much longer will it take before Washington follows suit?
Keep drinking that Kool-aid, it won't be long before your gun is the property of the government!
>Keep drinking that Kool-aid, it won't be long before your gun is the property of the government!
ReplyDeleteOf course, you won't put your $20 where your mouth is on this or any of the other ludicrous Obama conspiracy theories posted here everyday. You can keep claiming you believe this stuff, but actions speak louder than words. We both know you don't believe it.
--Davie
I don't need to bet to make it what I believe. You are free to think whatever.
ReplyDeleteI will be waiting to January, 2017 when Obama's term is done, and NONE, ZERO of the (by then) 100's of Obama conspiracy theories reposted here have materialized. What will you say you believe THEN????
ReplyDelete--David
David, you suffer from normalcy bias. You don't see the temperature rising while in the pan nor do you see the tide coming in. The temp and water levels are rising and you will not notice until the time that you are drowning or burning.
ReplyDeleteYou expect everything to continue on as we always have--like the assumption that Obama's term will end in 2017--when it does not happen, you will be flabbergasted and exclaim "how did this happen?" It was occurring while you were thinking nothing was happening.
Just like the tide coming in, you don't notice it until you are being swept out to sea. It sort of surprises you and before you know, it has overtaken you.
While I may be wrong on some of the predictions--no one can ever be 100% but I look at the trend line and see something that you refuse to even acknowledge the possibility.You on the other hand. absolutely refuse to acknowledge that you will EVER be wrong. A quick look at your last posting shows that clearly.
Ever and never are very long times and most times when those words are used or intimated, they indicate someone who refuses to see change. In my life, I have found that whenever I hear those words, I know that soon the other person will be wrong.