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Showing posts with label Messianic Jew. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Messianic Jew. Show all posts

Sunday, December 6, 2015

Farook And Victim Had Discussions On Religion And Politics


San Bernardino victim was upfront about politics and religion -- with Farook too



Nicholas Thalasinos, who died Wednesday in the San Bernardino shootingrampage that killed 14, was absolutely upfront about his religious and political leanings. And they could be harsh.
His Facebook page and Twitter feed were full of political opinions about radical Islam, President Obama, the Iraq nuclear agreement and gun control.
He was a Messianic Jew, which means he accepted Jesus Christ as his savior, and a passionate defender of Israel. According to his wife, Jennifer Thalasinos, he was not shy about proselytizing, or criticizing Islam, even to Muslim co-worker Syed Rizwan Farook, who has been identified as one of the shooters.
“He just wanted to evangelize to everybody, and that’s what he did,” Jennifer Thalasinos told CNN.  “I’m sure they would have had discussions about religion because my husband would discuss religion with anyone that would listen.”


Indeed, two weeks before the rampage at the Inland Regional Center, a friend of Thalasinos overheard him having a discussion about Islam with Farook.
Kuuleme Stephens said she called Thalasinos during his lunch break, and when he picked up the phone she could hear him in conversation with someone else.


The other person was Farook, a fellow health inspector. The men were discussing politics, religion and Islam.
She said Thalasinos told her that "Syed did not believe Islam was not a peaceful religion."
The conversation, said Stephens, was “nothing out of the ordinary. It was like an everyday conversation. It didn’t set off any bells or whistles for me.”  And yet she said her friend told her that “he didn’t know what to do to get through to [Farook] and how to talk to him.”
She said Thalasinos never mentioned Farook’s name before that call and that he had not expressed any concerns about Farook hurting him or anyone else.


"Nicholas was a very caring person," Stephens said. “He would help anybody if they needed.”
Stephens said she met Thalasinos about five years ago on Facebook and the Last Civil Right, a website for conservative African Americans. They shared the same political views, she said, and spoke frequently by phone. Thalasinos, Stephens said, called her his “sister.”
She said it was not unusual for Thalasinos to have spirited discussions with his co-workers about politics and religion. “He always kept the door open for discussion.”
Authorities are now investigating the attack at the social services center as an act of terrorism. But they have also said witnesses reported a tense exchange Wednesday at a holiday luncheon for the county health department before Farook left and returned with his wife, Tashfeen Malik. The couple fired assault rifles and semiautomatic pistols to kill 14 people, including the 52-year-old Nicholas Thalasinos.
Some conservative news outlets, including Red State and Brietbart, have slammed mainstream outlets for asking Jennifer Thalasinos questions implying that her husband was involved in an encounter that may have set off Farook.
It’s not clear whom Farook argued with before leaving the party.
On Thursday, friends and family posted loving messages on his Facebook page. Diane Jakopovic wrote that she was a longtime friend who met him online and bonded over shared political beliefs.
“However, he was also very religious, often citing Scripture,” she said. “I never really knew much about him; I used to accept everyone as my friend, but I liked his comments. He was inspiring. He understood that there is a lot of evil happening in this world.”

Who Are The Victims Of The San Bernardino Shooting. Here Is One.

Nicholas Thalasinos Facebook page
(Facebook)
One of those killed in the December 2 Inland Regional Center shooting has been named as Nicholas Thalasinos. He was a native of New Jersey and had moved to southern California for be with his wife, Jennifer Thalasinos. He became a born-again Jew in 2013, the same year that Syed Farook went to Mecca on a pilgrimage to meet his wife Tashfeen Malik.
The two perpetrators in the crime, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, were killed by police in the hours after the shooting.
Here’s what you need to know:

1. He Had an Argument With Farook on the Day of the Shooting But Generally ‘Had Nothing Bad to Say About the Shooter


A friend of the slain man told the New York Post that Thalasinos got into an argument with Syed Farook at the party where the shooting took place. The two fought over Islam and Farook’s assertion that it was a religion of peace. Farook said that Americans didn’t understand Islam. A friend of Thalasinos’, Kuuleme Stephens, said he heard the whole argument as he happened to call Thalasinos at the time of the argument. The slain man’s wife, Jennifer, told the Post, “He knew Syed. He worked with him. And he never had anything bad to say about him. He knew he was Muslim, and with our faith, they may not necessarily have got along.”
Another of Thalasinos’ friends, Thomas Duane Smith, wrote on Facebook that “HEY EVERYONE THE NEW YORK POST WROTE AN ARTICLE TRYING TO INSINUATE THAT MY FRIEND Nicholas Thalasinos WAS AT FAULT FOR THE ATTACKS IN CALIFORNIA.
PLEASE CALL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT IS FALSE, AND ASK HOW THEY WOULD FEEL IF EVERYONE SAID THAT THE NEW YORK POST WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ATTACKS ON 9 11. 2001.” Smith goes on to offer the phone number of the Post’s news desk and encouraged friends to call and complain.

2. The Day Before He Died, He Received a Threat Telling Him That Would Die &; Never See Israel

Jennifer Nicholas Thalasinos
Nicholas Thalasinos pictured with his wife Jennifer. (Facebook)
ABC News reports that he was long-term employee of the San Bernardino Department of Health. He formerly worked in Cape May County, New Jersey, as a health inspector. The station says that Thalasinos’ wife, Jennifer, works as a teacher in southern California. In addition to his wife, he is survived by his two adult sons.
Nicholas Thalasinos Facebook post threat
(Facebook)
The day before his death he posted on Facebook that he had received a threat telling him that he would “die and never see Israel.” One of the many tributes to Thalasinos that have been posted on his page read “It is my honest belief that Nicholas was murdered because of his alliance with Israel and Jewish people.”

3. In the Wake of the Colorado Planned Parenthood Shooting, He Called PP Employees ‘Licensed Murderers’

Nicholas Thalasinos Facebook
Thalasinos pictured at the Reagan National Library. (Facebook)
In the wake of the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting on November 27, Thalasinoswrote a series of tweets:



His final tweet before his death said that “Jeb Bush is his own WORST Enemy.”
According to his Facebook page, Thalasinos was a Messianic Jew. On his Twitter page, Thalasinos identifies himself as “I am the LEAST SERVANT and Talmadin of Rabbi Yeshua Messiah and through Him HASHEM.”
His Facebook also says that he “Studied Conservatism at the Limbaugh Institute of Advanced Conservative Studies.” On Facebook, he went by the moniker “ProTzionist.” His brother Michael also took that name. Michael wrote a Facebook post on November 28 with Nicholas that read:
The problem with the world is that people seem to think that ‘real life’ is somehow TOTALLY SEPARATE from the Spiritual realm.
The Liberals WON the day they took Biblical learning out if schools – that’s when we STOPPED teaching BIBLICAL VALUES to our children. Every succeeding generation LESS children learn them – the void has become filled with WORLDLY (HaSatans) values instead of HASHEMS values.

4. He Was Outspoken Against Islamic Terrorism

Nicholas Thalasinos politics
A photo posted on Thalasinos’ Facebook page.
He had written extensively about Islamic terrorism and was outspoken in his opposition to it. AMay 2014 writing from Thalasinos dealt with Elliot Rodger, who stabbed and shot six people at the University of California, Santa Barbara that month. The blog post reads:
Liberal arm-chair quarterbacks are tweeting that Eliot Roger – the California shooter – killed those Sorority sisters because he was ‘Jewish dirt who was a virgin and a MYSOGYNIST’ – and a Right wing nut.
If I may:
1. The Left just has to INJECT THEIR RAGING JEWISH RACISM INTO EVERY TRAGEDY EVERY CHANCE THEY GET.
Let’s just compare him to all the MUSLIM MURDERERS that operate worldwide EVERY DAMN DAY.
2. He was a SICK, MENTALLY ILL LUNATIC – politics isn’t a part of this!
3. He stabbed his Geek roommates – he didn’t just hate WOMAN, he hated EVERYONE.
Final note to all the Gun Control SICK GHOULISH LIBERAL LUNATICS who are SLOBBERING at this opportunity – he killed his roommates with a KNIFE!
LETS BAN KNIVES – RIGHT?
One Facebook photo on his page made fun of a sign from a Christian church that told people “the best way to defeat ISIL is to make friends with a Muslim.”
The blog he wrote for, Big Dog’s Weblog, is run by a veteran who “cannot stand liberalism and feel it is a disease that eats away, like a cancer, at the fabric of our society. I also believe that if this country does not stop pandering to special interest groups and does not stop taking away the rights guaranteed under our Constitution, and if they do not stop creating a welfare class of dependent people, there will be another civil war.”
In an obit for Thalasinos, the site’s admin wrote:
I never met Nick in person though he is one person I wish I had. He was part of a group of people I communicate with via social media and we became friends through interactions among those folks. He was a religious man (as evidenced by his screen name) and he was a big supporter of Israel.
All accounts are that he was a great family man and loved by all who had the pleasure of knowing him.
The admin goes on to say that President Obama “will continue on his quest to import more terror here disguised as Syrian refugees. The people who carry out these attacks are bragging that they are infiltrating the refugees in order to establish terror cells in Europe and In America.”

5. Neither Perpetrator Was Known to the FBI

Syed Farook Tashfeen Malik photos pictures
Farook shown in a screengrab via ABC News.
CNN reports that neither of the suspects were known to local police or to the FBI.
Officials said they do not know what the motive for the shooting is so far adding on December 3 that the couple could have been en route to another attack when they were killed.
After initially saying there were no indications of terrorism, the FBI said Wednesday night that they have not ruled out a connection to terrorism. The FBI spokesman would not give an more specifics.
“I am not willing to go down that road just yet,” said David Bowdich, the head of the FBI’s Los Angeles office, at a press conference. “We will go where the evidence takes us.”
A California Highway Patrol officer stands with his weapon as authorities pursued the suspects. (Getty)
A California Highway Patrol officer stands with his weapon as authorities pursued the suspects. (Getty)
The San Bernardino police chief Jarrod Burguan told the media that “There had to be some sort of planning that went into this.” Burguan continued “I don’t think they just ran home, put on these types of tactical clothes, grabbed guns and came back on a spur of the moment.” The chief spoke regarding the report that Farook had been at a holiday party and gotten into an argument with someone. Only to return a few hours later to open fire.