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Showing posts with label founders opinions of gun control. Show all posts
Showing posts with label founders opinions of gun control. Show all posts

Saturday, January 26, 2013

Americans Should Be Able To Own Any Weapon


We should not even be having a discussion on the validity of Americans owning guns. It is our right under the Constitution and any discussion or law to the contrary should be Un-Constitutional. In fact, we believe, that ALL Americans should be able to own any weapon they desire.

Until the 1930's Americans could own any weapon they wanted. They did not need to register it, did not have to get a permit to own it and it could be purchased at the local department store or sometimes even the drug store.  Guns were available, easily purchased and somehow, there were few shootings.

Then the "smart ones" decided that we should outlaw liquor which gave rise to the rum runners and the "Chicago" style gangsters with their Tommy Guns. All of a sudden we needed to stop these people from killing each other with these guns that fired "thousands of bullets" a minute.  At this point the first gun regulation started and it has been downhill ever since.

Today we are facing a political class, which conveniently excludes itself from obeying any law including gun control(see our post yesterday regarding the exclusion of "any government official" from the proposed assault weapons ban.) Their ultimate idea is an America without guns. Correction: America without guns owned by the common law abiding citizens. The ruling class will still have their weapons as well will the thugs, knuckle dragging neanderthals, and criminals but we have just repeated ourselves.

However, the Founding Fathers knew human nature and how these "smart ones" think, we mean feel, as thinking is not required to be a part of this class. They knew that given enough time, they would want to take this Constitutionally regulated Republic away from the citizens and grant all power to themselves. We are at that point now.

The Feinstein attempt to take away all guns must be defeated, whether it is in the halls of Congress, locally (as in the following post) or by citizen action.  We should reverse all the laws that have been passed since the 1930's. 

We should allow any citizen to own any type of military hardware up to and including tanks, rocket launchers and if someone wants, an F-16. Why, you say should a citizen own these weapons? Because, he as a free citizen of this country has the right to them!

In 1776, the top line of military hardware was the musket. It was used successfully against the British and Spaniards.  No longer were soldiers running around the country with axes or even bows and arrows. They carried the most up-to-date gun and cannon.  

The Founders would think no different today. They would want a citizen to have the same equipment as the government as this is the only way  the populace can be an effective counterbalance to an overbearing government.

We understand that Supreme Court decisions in the past have ruled against this argument, however, Justices can get things wrong. We saw that in the ObamaCare court case. It is time for the Court to reverse itself and grant Americans the right to defend themselves against the government. The Founders would agree!

Conservative Tom





The Gun Fight Will Be Local

January 25, 2013 by  
The Gun Fight Will Be Local
PHOTOS.COM
Senator Dianne Feinstein (Communist-Calif.) introduced her draconian and unConstitutional bill to ban weapons with scary-looking features and high-capacity magazines and create a national registry system yesterday. It was classic sleight of hand.
The bill was introduced with sound and fury by a person who has stated it’s her goal to confiscate every firearm in America. It was done in violation of Washington, D.C.’s existing gun laws. Of course, laws don’t apply to the 1 percent (just ask David Gregory). They get special exemptions and specially exempted body guards to watch over them. Over the course of the coming days, the gun grabbers will hail her as a heroine.
The CINO (conservative in name only) Republicans in Congress will wail and gnash their teeth. Threatened by Tea Party challenges from the right and the National Rifle Association, most will not cave.
Senators are already indicating that passing a gun ban will be a tough sell. And Congressional Republicans — who have already alienated conservative Americans by agreeing to an unConstititutional fiscal cliff deal that raised taxes on 77 percent of the population — would be committing suicide by passing more gun laws.
That’s not to say you can ignore Congress. Lawmakers will do all they can to walk the tightrope between what their masters want (disarmament of Americans) and what the voting population and the NRA will endure.
The real gun grab is coming by stealth. President Barack Obama’s (Fascist-Who knows where?) bank, Bank of America has frozen the accounts of two gun manufacturers. Another gun manufacturer has had his liability insurance, held by GEICO, cancelled because his vehicle “does not meet our underwriting guidelines because it is used in conjunction with a company that deals in the weapons industry.” GEICO, of course, is owned by Obama’s BFF, Warren Buffett.
On the State level, gun rights are being snatched overtly and covertly. New York just rammed through a comprehensive gun ban that will allow weapons to be confiscated once the original owner dies. It will also institute a database of gun owners and require re-registration every five years.
In Missouri, the Senate is considering a bill that would require a parent or guardian of a Missouri school student to notify the school board in writing that he or she owns a firearm. Parents of children who commit crimes with guns would be prosecuted as felons.
Though ordered by a recent Federal appeals court to create a law that would allow for concealed carry in Illinois, gun grabbers there are rather seeking ways to circumvent the ruling and keep guns in the hands of criminals but away from law-abiding citizens.
States like Texas, Wyoming, Tennessee, South Dakota and South Carolina have bills pending before their legislatures that would block enforcement of unConstitutional Federal firearms laws. Other States like Pennsylvania, Alabama and perhaps a dozen more, have pro-gun rights bills set for their next sessions.
Dozens of local sheriffs have declared that they will defend the Constitution and resist unConstitional gun laws. The real gun fight will go on at the State and local levels.
Meanwhile, the gun grabbers and Obama through his executive orders are Balkanizing America. It seems that disarmament and division are their main goals, and they’re using children as human shields. And don’t forget, they’ve accumulated billions of rounds of ammunition to deal with those who won’t peaceably comply.

Friday, January 11, 2013

Founders Advice On Gun Control


I recently received the following quote from a friend of mine. It is: 
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason, during Virginia's
Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788).

It got me to thinking what other quotes can we find and we came across the following article which makes it pretty clear what the Founders were thinking about guns and a soldier's equipment. Would they have thought that ALL weapons of war should be allowed in individual's hands? We believe the answer would be yes.

During this current debate, we keep hearing about the use of guns for "hunting and sport" as if that was the original intent of the Second Amendment. It  is obvious that the Founders would laugh at that presumption.  They feared their fellow citizens who were not mentally balanced and criminals but they were more frightened of a government that would impose its will on the common folk.

We believe that we need to take the wisdom of the Founders and apply it to today. Gun control is forbidden by the Second Amendment and any effort to impose any should be resisted to the full extent necessary.  We must push back otherwise we are guaranteeing that our other rights will not be worth the paper onto which they are written.

Be Scared, Be Very Scared!

Conservative Tom 




The Founders’ Words Reveal Intent.
By Colonel Dan, SASS# 24025 Life


We all probably know the Second Amendment by heart, but do we know the underlying intent that served as a foundational basis for that Amendment? 

Obviously, the basic content of our Founding Fathers’ thoughts ultimately determined the final content of our Constitution.  But in order to gain some insight to their fundamental thought process, i.e. intent, we might want to read what they wrote on the subject external to the Bill of Rights. 

In their hearts of hearts—their souls—how did they really feel about the private citizen’s right to keep and bear arms—and why?  This is a question the anti-gunners in our midst use and twist constantly—as in “The Second doesn’t really mean what you think it does.  It means that only a well regulated militia has the right to keep and bear arms, not the people.”  The militia defined by the anti-gunners as the National Guard—in other words, a government regulated military force.  Is that the view of the Founding Fathers? 

To help us better understand their intentions I suggest we read the words they used when persuading others about the merits of their ideas.  Therein we’ll find the best available indication of actual intent behind the Amendment from those that actually wrote it.

Below are a few representative examples among many regarding our right to keep and bear arms from the Founders themselves.  All quotes are unedited by me.  I could not and would not presume to improve upon the inspiration of our Founding Fathers. 

My only request is that you read, think, and determine for yourself what they really meant.  Then after reading their own words, ask yourself if the Founders seem like advocates of “common sense gun control” or do they seem somewhat more like “Second Amendment Absolutists” to you? 

Once you come to a conclusion, be an active voice of commitment in defense of and for that conclusion—whatever it may be.  Just don’t be noncommittal and therefore uncommitted—there’s too much at stake.

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"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson,
Proposed Virginia Constitution (1776).

"A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves and include all men capable of bearing arms …To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms . . . " Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters From the Federal Farmer 53 (1788).

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason, during Virginia's
Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788).

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater…confidence than an armed man." Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and punishment (1764).

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops." Noah Webster, An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution Proposed BV the Late Convention (1787).

"Americans need not fear the federal government because they enjoy the advantage of being armed, which you possess over the people of almost every other nation." James Madison.  

"False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crime."--Cesare Beccaria, quoted by Thomas Jefferson

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." Edmund Burke (1784).

"Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."--Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment, I Annals of Congress at p. 750, August 17, 1789.

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
--James Madison, The Federalist Papers No. 46 at 243-244.

"Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people" --Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them." --Richard
Henry Lee, 1788

"The great object is that every man be armed" and "everyone who is able may have a gun." --Patrick Henry

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" --Patrick Henry


"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8


"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside...Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them..." --Thomas Paine

"...the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms" --from article in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette June 18,1789 at 2, col.2.

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
--Thomas Jefferson to James Madison

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them."  Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of The United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms..." – Samuel Adams, during Massachusetts's Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788).