The Birth Certificate Issue Raises Its Head Again.

PHOTO: Trump Publicly HUMILIATES Obama by Pulling Out Massive Surprise Document

 

Donald Trump has been a legendary thorn in the side of the Obama administration almost since day one, with the billionaire real estate mogul and media personality ridiculing the Obama administration’s pie in the sky economic theories and constant dissembling.

Perhaps the height of Trump showing up the Obama White House was in March of 2011, Trump appeared on Greta Van Susteren’s Fox News show. The interview took place during the controversy over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, and The Donald took full advantage of the situation.

During the interview, Trump dropped a bombshell: unlike Obama, who to this day hasn’t issued a long-form birth certificate after almost seven years in office, he was able to get his in less than an hour.

“He doesn’t have it,” Trump said. “He spent millions of dollars on lawyers trying to get out of the issue. They give what’s called a certificate of live birth which doesn’t even have a signature on it, and anybody can get a certificate of live birth. It’s nothing to do with a birth certificate.”

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Trump also found it suspicious that nobody had come forward to say that they had helped give birth to the future president.

“Here is the president of the United States and no doctor, no nurse, nobody’s come forward and said, ‘I delivered that beautiful baby,’” Trump said.

Trump said his insistence on seeing Obama’s birth certificate had nothing to do with him being a “birther.” Rather, he said he hoped the president was born here, but found it disturbing and dishonest that Obama had not produced his long-form birth certificate.

“To be honest with you, I want him to have a birth certificate because that would mean that his presidency was, I guess you’d have to say, illegal,” Trump said.

“You have to be born in the United States. I hope he was born in the United States. But I want to get rid of the word ‘hope’. I want to know for sure.”

Don’t we all, Donald. However, my guess is that we’re not going to be seeing a long-form certificate anytime soon.

H/T IJReview

Regretfully I Still Am A Birther

Today, President Obama gave us his long form birth certificate, at least that is what he told us. He also said that his birth status was taking up too much time in light of the major issues the United States is facing. Well, I sure do wish that I felt that he was telling us the truth.

When it comes to his birth status I still have questions. For a couple of years there has been the copies of Eleanor Nordyke's twins birth certificate going around the net.  These documents show a birth date of August 5, 1961 and a acceptance date of August 11, 1961.The Department of Health record file numbers are 151-61-10637 and 10638. So you say, what does that mean?  Well, when we look at the newly released birth certificate you see a birth date of August 4, 1961 (one day before the twins), an acceptance date of August 8, 1961 of August 8, 1961 which is three days before the Nordyke twins, however the record file number is 151-61-10641 (three or four numbers after the twins record file number.)  Both the twins and Obama were "born" at the same hospital.

Now there are two answers to this puzzling question, either the Hawaii Department of Health system was incompetent at that time and recorded births out of order (which for government officials could be understandable) or the "new" document is not real.

There are two additional issues with the document as portrayed by the President as his "birth certificate."  The first is that his father's race is listed as "African."  In 1961 which was before the Civil Rights era, the proper description of someone whose ancestry was Africa, would have been Negro.  Why is it this way? Again, is it incompetency on the part of the Health Department or....

The second question that is that if you look at the President's newly released document, it appears to have been copied out of a book as you can tell the left margin is getting darker. If we accept this as the record, then the State of Hawaii would have had to go back and make new copies of the old birth certificates. If you look at the Nordyke certificates, they are the black background with white writing which is what all older birth certificates (including my own) look like.

Another question that arises in my mind is why is he named Barack Hussein Obama II and not Barack Hussein Obama Jr.?  Normally, parents name their child Junior if all the other names are the same.  Just a question, that tickles the innards of my less than fertile mind.

So I guess I am still one of those demented birthers who will never accept his "story."  I go back to my comments earlier this month advising the President to release ALL of his records including his college records.  He won't and I fear he will take the attitude that he doesn't need to as he has released his birth certificate. Until the time  he produces all his records, there will always be those who like me,  who keep wondering "if he has nothing to hide, why does he just not come clean."  The only answer I can think of, he is dirty!

What do you think? 

Poll Results

The most recent poll on Conservative Musings resulted in some interesting insights.  The poll was to determine if participants would vote for Donald Trump as the Republican Presidential candidate.  A surprising 61% of respondents said they NEVER would support Trump.  Just under 25% thought they might consider and the balance were more favorably enamored by the Trumpmaster.

The negative response was surprising due to Trump's  business success, One would have thought that conservatives would be more interested in having him lead the party. However, in conversations with other non-liberals, it appears there is a reluctance to endorse Trump due to his "celebrity" status. Does being a renowned business man who happens to have a television program eliminate him from being President?  Apparently, the answer is yes.

Another negative are the comments he has made regarding President Obama and his birthplace. Trump has said he does not believe the President was born in Hawaii.  As we have previously written, Trump has reinvigorated the debate by the "birthers."

Would he be a good candidate and more importantly, would he be a successful President. Would he have the patience to work with Congress to pass his program or would he resort to his favorite phrase--"you're fired!"


So we see that Conservatives are not enamored with the Trumpster, however, one wonders if he will become a candidate for the Republican at all.  He has promised to declare before June 1st, we all will be waiting on  his decision. We know that he has the ego, the money and (he says) the angst on the direction America is heading. So, will enter the race, time will tell.

Do you agree with the poll? Will Trump become a candidate? Has your opinion changed on Trump?  If not Trump, who would you vote for?