Several months ago, retired Fed Chairman Greenspan on NBC's Meet the Press was asked about the affordability of Social Security, Medicare and other social programs in an era of a poor economy. His answer (which was never repeated on any media outlet) was "we never could." As I said in a previous posting on this issue, I was shocked. If we could never afford the benefits, what are we going to do? The answer is no a pretty one.
The only option is to severely restrict all benefits or significantly increase the requirements to obtain them like increasing the age on could get Social Security or to means test the benefits. None of those answers are going to make you or I happy especially when it comes to Social Security for which our own money was put into what has become nothing better than a ponzi scheme.
So when I read Michael Barone's article that follows, I thought it was a natural follow up on the Greenspan comment..
Our economy was/is one of the strongest in the world and therefore our representatives at all levels of government thought that they could start programs that would benefit those who elected them The problem is that down the road costs go up or there has to be maintenance done on the program which never is figured in the initial expenditures and somewhere down the road, the entire program has to be redone.
It is like building a house. Everything is great for years. Of course, there are the little repairs which we can absorb without any problem. However, say 15 years later the roof needs to be replaced and that is not pocket change. Most homeowners have not established a "roof replacement fund" for the time when a new one is needed. So what do you do, get a loan, not today. You borrow from wherever to get the money to put on the new roof.
Our infrastructure in this country is no different. We built great roads and bridges but our leaders never planned for the time when they would needed major repair or to be replaced. Now they are falling apart or in the case of some bridges, literally falling down. We are in a panic, what are we going to do.
Next Thursday we will hear from President Obama on his jobs proposal which supposedly includes an Infrastructure Bank. Now I don't know what that means but I can guess, it is going to be another government program to fix the bridges, tunnels and roads of this country. It might include other things and I guess we will have to wait to find out (after the football game.)
We need to look at infrastructure completely differently by making provisions for repairs and replacement. Or my idea is to privatize roads, bridges and tunnels. Let the users pay for maintenance and future replacements. I doubt we will hear that from the President, he just does not think that way.
Our success as a nation, the hubris that we felt has brought us to this pivotal point. Many very tough decisions that most of us will disagree with, have to be made. Are we as Americans ready to make those difficult choices to ensure the nation survives? Or will be demand the same programs and benefits to which we have become comfortable and drive this great nation onto the scrap heap of history? It is your and my decision--I know what mine is, do you?
THE CONSERVATIVE REVIEW - August 30, 2011
The Costs of Success by: Michael Barone
Townhall.com
Some of society's most intractable problems come not from its failures but from its successes. Often you can't get a good thing without paying a bad price.
A prime example is our public old-age pension system, Social Security. It has been completely successful in wiping out poverty among the elderly. Old ladies no longer have to eat cat food to survive.
But we pay some prices for this. One is a lower savings rate. China has a humungous savings rate in part because it has no reliable old-age pension system. People have to save if they don't want to starve.
In the United States, we got out of the habit of saving. In the decade up to the financial crash of 2008, the U.S. savings rate fell below zero.
We felt comfortable borrowing on the supposedly ever-increasing values of our houses to support current and sometimes lavish consumption. Now we're paying the price.
But even if our savings rate rises back to the level of, say, the 1980s, it still may be lower than optimal.
The longer-term price any society pays for a public old-age pension system is lower birth rates. Farmers had large families in order to provide additional labor for their working years and sources of income for their dotage. So did factory workers a century ago.
In Western Europe, birth rates have fallen below the rate necessary to replace population -- in some countries, far below. The American birth rate has remained, barely, above replacement rate largely because of immigration. But immigration has slumped during the recession and may never return to the 1990-2008 level.
Unfortunately, under Social Security, like most public pension systems, current pensions are paid for by current workers. As lifespans increase and birth rates fall, the ratio of pensioners to active workers falls toward one-to-one.
That's not enough to support the elderly in anything like the style to which they have been accustomed, unless tax rates are sharply increased. And sharply higher tax rates, as Western Europe has shown over the last three decades, reduce long-term economic growth.
That's the problem, often abbreviated as "entitlements," facing our political system.
But Democrats would have none of it. As Bush's job approval plummeted in the wake of Hurricane Katrina and lack of success in Iraq, the issue was quietly dropped.
This year, Republicans addressed entitlements again, in the budget prepared by House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan and approved in the House.
His proposal was to shift Medicare from the current plan to "premium support," in which seniors would get subsidies to pay for their choice of competing insurance plans. This is similar to the Part D Medicare prescription drug program that has won wide acceptance and has cost far less than projections.
Once again, Democrats have responded negatively. They credit their "Mediscare" tactics for a special election victory in a Republican House district in upstate New York.
What's interesting is that, in contrast to 2005, we have had nothing in the way of presidential leadership on this issue. Barack Obama, hailed by some conservatives and most liberals as a pragmatic problem-solver, has been happy to play politics on entitlements as well as on the budget.
He blithely ignored the recommendations of his own commission headed by Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson. He has said since he would take a look at raising the Medicare eligibility age -- it's now lower than the Social Security age.
But anyone can take a look at a proposal. We pay presidents a good salary to lead, not just to look.
So far, the Republican presidential candidates have not done much leading on entitlements, either. They have tended to take a gingerly approach to Paul Ryan's Medicare proposal, and Newt Gingrich even trashed it.
The conventional wisdom is that this is simple political prudence. Don't give the other side a juicy target.
But we are faced not only with a huge short-term budget problem but with the prospect of a Western European future of an enlarged government, ever higher taxes and lower growth. Is that really what American voters want?
Greenspan also said we can't afford to keep the Bush tax cuts. Everyone loves to talk about "shared sacrifice", but what are the Wall Street investment banks doing to "share" after getting nearly a trillion in TARP money and trillions of nearly interest-free money for the Federal Reserve? We don't know exactly how much because we can't audit the Fed's books (vote for Ron Paul, man). Still, after all that, they are hoarding money and putting the squeeze on foreclosures despite multiple lawsuits for fraud and mismanagements of the mortgages and the mortgage-backed securities scams that wrecked our economy.
ReplyDeleteSo while we are asking old people (SS) and poor people (Medicaid) to share in the "sacrifice", what do you have to say about the hedge fund managers who earn $500 million annual by creating bubbles in the futures markets and then short-selling to create artificially inflated prices on commodities like food and oil, while all the time paying an effective income tax rate of only 16% (see Warren Buffet's op ed in the WSJ). Still, these people will not have to participate in the "shared sacrifice." I have tried and tried to get you to comment on this to no avail.
--David
Ok David, here are my comments. The banks should NOT have been bailed out. They just took the money and the Fed gives them .25% each and every day. It is called Fed overnight funds.
ReplyDeleteThe banks are not working out mortgages. If you want to see how bad Bank of America is, check out this site: www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/ba.htm
You will become bored reading the same story over and over. Obviously Bank of America is not interested in solving its own problems. They want the government to!
I agree that the Fed needs to be audited. Who will have the guts to do that. Your candidate Dr. Paul says that he will if elected, can he?
As far as hedge managers, what is your solution? Should we make hedge funds illegal? Don't they serve a function? Should we make salary caps of 100,000 for a fund manager? Hedges have been used for years especially in the commodity area, Southwest Air used jet fuel hedges to keep their costs down. Farmers use it to protect the downside of crop prices. I think they serve a useful purpose.
However,in all things there will be excesses. People will always push the boundaries and it is possible that new bumpers need to be installed. I don't know that answer.
Regarding shared sacrifice, everyone has to share in this problem. First of all, Congress and Congressional staff as well as White House and White House staffers need to take a 30% cut effective immediately. The outrageous increases that the White House staff has received in the past month (20-70% increase) must be recinded. That would show leadership.
Then you go to government employees and give them their haircut of 15% and require they pay for 50% of their health insurance and other benefits.
Now I know that these will not end the shortfall but it would be called leadership.
Regarding SS, this is NOT an entitlement! Everyone who has worked a day in his life has paid into this plan. The cuts should be on people who have not contributed (illegal immigrants for example), the millions on social security disability who are not disabled or who have not paid into social security i.e. babies born with medical problems or autism.
We never could afford these programs and now we need to cut--sorry.
Medicaid is abused every day so we need to clean up that system and if we cannot, cancel it or have everyone reapply. That would also apply to ssdi. Make those government workers earn their pay!
How about going after government employees who approve disability or medicaid cases where the people were not qualified!Have them pay for their mistakes.
David, if you and I were given the power, we could fix things in three weeks. We would disagree on many things, but we could get it done because we could reasonably reach some agreement.
The problem is that the politicians are looking to the next election and if benefits were removed or cancelled, there would be hell to pay when the pol ran again.
So...my prediction is that not much will be done except tinker around the edges. Things will get worse each year. More handringing and no solutions until there is a total and absolute collapse of the economy.
At that point we will have one person rise to President who will take absolute control of the government.
Scary, yes. Real I sure do hope not. But I see no political candidate who is electable and would be willing to stop the out of control train. Do you?
Okay, let's step back and look at the big picture. Historically, the economy has done well with both revenue and spending running at about 20% of GDP. Today, both revenue and spending are running 3-4% off those targets (revenue at 16% and spending at 23%). Both levels have not been this terrible in over 50 years, and we now have them TOGETHER.
ReplyDeleteThis has all come about since 2000 for a variety of reasons…
1. Bush tax cuts, wars, Medicare part "D".
2. The recession following the "dot.com" when Clinton/Gramm totally deregulated the derivative markets.
3. Wall Street CDO's, mortgage-backed securities, credit default swaps debacle as a result.
4. Massive consumer debt stimulated by easy bank credit and inflated home "values" used to leverage spending.
5. Greenspan at the Fed giving banks nearly interest-free money to help finance their securities fraud operations. Bernanke is still doing it. Ron Paul would raise hell over this, and demand an audit of the Fed.
There's more, but those are the main sources. What frustrates me is that while we are having this conversation about "shared sacrifice", the super-rich Wall Street banks that created this disaster (with plenty of assistance from the administrations of Clinton, Bush, and the Federal Reserve) are not expected to pay for any of it.
There are a myriad number of ways they could "sacrifice", beginning with the $1 trillion in avoided taxes they will enjoy over the next decade because of the innumerable specialized tax breaks their lobbyists have gained for them in the tax code over the years.
There is a lot of talk about "tax reform" by Democrats and Republicans alike, but little action. For example, taxing capital gains as ordinary income and not allowing these hedge fund managers to defer their taxes. That is the kind of thing the Simpson-Bowles commission recommended to cut spending and increase revenue.
Unfortunately, I must agree that our political system doesn't seem capable to deal with the problem. I also agree with you that the ultimate solution is radical campaign finance reform and term limits on Congress in order to reduce the influence of corporate money on politicians.
The president of the United States cannot, as you say, take "absolute control." We do have the powers of the president checked by the constitution. Otherwise, Obama would just implement his jobs proposal next week by executive orders.
--David
I am aware of the Bank of America fiasco. It is pretty much the same story with all these banks. First, they put people in subprime loans with little or no downpayment -- not caring whether the loan is repaid since their plan is to bundle it with other such junky mortgages as a mortgage-backed security to be palmed off onto some investor or pension fund. They also get their butts covered by $180 billion in credit default swaps from AIG, and all of them knew FROM THE BEGINNING that this was all a scam but there will be a government bailout when they crash the economy. Still, we don't hear a word from anybody -- Obama or Republicans or any article you have posted -- about Wall Street paying to clean up their own mess. Instead, they are all looking for ways to squeeze more money out of the people who have lost their homes, their jobs, and their life savings to these banks who now won't even have the decency to restructure some of the loans (as legislation provides) so that some of these people will be able to keep their homes. At least there are major civil and federal lawsuits pending against them. Maybe this litigation will recover some of the money, since it is very clear that Congress and Obama (who was largely financed by Wall Street in his last election) are not going to do anything about it. In fact, they are all set up to do another financial markets bubble.
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One thing that you forgot to mention, the lackeys in Congress who (Barney Frank for one) who told Congress in 2006 that everything was great with Fannie and Freddy and that Republican attempts to rein them in were not needed. Where is his accountability? Or for that part, the legislators and regulators who wrote and then enforced the Community Reinvestment Act passed in the Carter Administration which was the genesis of the banks giving loans to poor risk homeowners.
ReplyDeleteI do agree that no one is holding the banks responsible for their part of the mess nor is there ANYONE that has gone to jail over this! Now that is a travesty!
Hey Tom, it is not over yet. There is still hope that some of these people will go to prison. I would begin my house cleaning at Goldman Sachs. Meanwhile, I say take back as much of the money as possible by taxes, new fees on CDS transactions, litigation, etc,, etc. Let's get as imaginative at taking back our money from them as they are in getting it from us.
ReplyDeleteDavid
Fannie and Freddie were certainly part of the problem, but not the crux of it. Their loans performed much better than those of the totally unregulated outfits like Countrywide. Also, Fannie and Freddie were actually late to party, and got into trouble buying junk off the big banks. All the mortgages combined were small potatoes compared to the derivatives built upon them by the investment banks like Lehman, Goldman Sachs. Most people don't understand this.
ReplyDelete--David
David, I hope you are right, however, I do not think that we will ever see mass criminal actions against these people. There is one reason, there were too many politicians who were right in the middle of the feeding trough. If you go after one of the Wall street guys they will start naming names of who they paid off! It is called corruption.
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