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Thursday, November 29, 2012

Palestinian Goals--Not Good For Israel


Want to know what the Palestinians want from their recognition by the UN? Read their newspapers.  Here is a summary of what the leaders of Hamas, PLO, Fatah and others have said.  Anyone who believes in the right of Israel to exist as safe and independent state has to be scared by the words that have been spoken. 

Additionally, with the majority of the General Assembly of the UN backing these moves, how long will it take for Israel to be named a pariah state by this august body? What will the US do then?  Will Obama show his true colors and cut off all military and foreign aid? Will he prevent Americans from sending money to Israel?  We believe all these are possibilities.

Conservative Tom


Two Palestinian goals at UN: Have all disputed land declared 'occupied' and have terrorists declared legitimate freedom fighters

Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik - PMW,  November 29th, 2012

 The Palestinian Authority wishes to achieve a number of political gains by having the UN vote today, recognizing “Palestine” as a non-member observer state. First, all lands that are disputed and whose future must be negotiated according to the Oslo Accords, the PA wants declared Palestinian “occupied territory.” Second, they claim that UN recognition would change the status of Palestinian terrorists in Israeli prisons to legitimate freedom fighters and prisoners of war.
1- Changing the status of land under Israeli administration since 1967 to “occupied territory”
PA Foreign Minister Riad Al-Maliki:
“If Palestine receives status of a non-member state in the General Assembly, there will be positive effects on all levels in the future… Israel will no longer be able to define the occupied territories as disputed lands. They will become lands of a separate, occupied state.”
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, July 24, 2012]
PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas:
“During a speech at a meeting of the Arab League Ministerial Council, President Abbas said: … 'We will hand in the application and request that it be voted on this November 29… We want to establish that the Palestinian territories that were [taken] in 1967 including Jerusalem [are occupied], since Israel has a different approach. It says that the territories occupied in 1967 are disputed territories. In other words, up for negotiations'”
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Nov. 13, 2012]
2- Changing the status of Palestinian terrorists who have targeted civilians into legitimate fighters and prisoners of war
“Minister of Prisoners, Issa Karake said that the [PA] leadership's application to the UN to wrest [from it] international recognition of a Palestinian state, which is not a member of the UN, will raise the legal status of the prisoners and will offer international protection of their rights and their honor… He said that the prisoners will become captives of a state (i.e., Palestine), hostages and detainees in another state (i.e., Israel). The state's (Palestine's) legal status will turn them into prisoners of war who are detained illegally in the prisons inside Israel.”
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Nov. 13, 2012]
Already last year, PA Minister of Prisoners Karake said that UN recognition would indicate that the international community retroactively legitimizes Palestinian violence:
“[PA Minister of Prisoners' Affairs, Issa] Karake… explained that the international recognition of the Palestinian State changes all the imprisoned Palestinians into prisoners of a state, prisoners of war held hostage in another state… He noted that the recognition of the state means recognition of the legitimacy of the Palestinian struggle that the Palestinian nation fought, in the search for freedom and independence. In addition, it [recognition of a state] indicates that the struggles (Arabic- Nidalat) of the prisoners are legitimized and legal according to UN Resolutions, international laws and the third and fourth Geneva Conventions.”
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Sept. 8, 2011]
Note: The Palestinian Authority uses the word nidal – literally 'struggle' – as a general term that includes all acts against Israel – including terror against civilians.
 
Earlier this year, Palestinian Media Watch released a bulletin explaining the Palestinian Authority strategy. Last year, the PA went to the UN requesting full statehood recognition. In the days following last year's request for statehood, official PA TV celebrated the request by playing clips that show maps of the future Palestinian state. As opposed to Abbas' declaration at the UN recognizing Israel, the maps on PA TV showed a Palestinian state replacing Israel.
The following are longer excerpts of the article on Karake's statements:
Headline: “Karake: Our application to the UN [to achieve] recognition of the State of Palestine will raise the legal status of the prisoners”
“Minister of Prisoners, Issa Karake said that the [PA] leadership's application to the UN to wrest [from it] international recognition of a Palestinian state which is not a member of the UN will raise the legal status of the prisoners and will offer international protection of their rights and their honor… He said that the prisoners will become captives of a state (i.e., Palestine), hostages and detainees in another state (i.e., Israel). The state's (Palestine's) legal status will turn them into prisoners of war who are detained illegally in the prisons inside Israel. He added: 'If the State of Palestine is recognized, it will be easy for us to call on the parties to the Geneva Conventions to assemble in order to apply the Geneva Conventions to the territories of the occupied state. This includes [applying the Conventions to] the prisoners and in addition, we will be able to prosecute the Israelis and hold them accountable for actions and crimes that have been committed and continue to be committed against the prisoners in prison.'”
[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Nov. 13, 2012]

2 comments:

  1. Susan Rice's comment on Palestine...

    "Today's grand pronouncement will soon fade and the Palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed, save that the prospects of a durable peace have only receded," Rice said.

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    The United States was only one of 8 countries to stand with Israel on the vote. If Obama were inclined to support the Palestinians against the Israelis, this was his golden opportunity with "cover" from 139 countries, and he would even need to worry about reelection. Every U.S. president stands with Israel, and Obama is no exception. They also owe their two greatest military assets -- Iron Dome and bunker buster bombs sold to them by Obama -- to the current administration. The list goes on...

    --David

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  2. In the next four years, the count will be 147 to 0. Obama is NOT a friend of Israel, he just could not do what he wanted until after the election and he has other things he needs to put in place first.

    Every President except Truman has been AGAINST Israel and have forced Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and the other Lebanon incursions and Infitada I and II, to stop their progress. You need to read more about the history and discover the truth. For example, in 1973 Nixon sent tanks and materiel to Israel after Kissinger interceded and forced Nixon's hand. When Israel broke through and was headed for Syria, Nixon told them to stop or support would end.

    Support from Israel is not equal to the support sent to the Arabs, it is dwarfed especially to the support of Saudi Arabia.

    Obama did not sell Iron Dome to Israel, it was developed in Israel. The US did send some 900 million to Israel, it was not Obama.

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