We have never felt that Obama was a friend of Israel and the latest rant by Leon Panetta adds more evidence to the conclusion. No matter how many times he tells us about what a good friend he is, having your Secretary of Defense insist that Israel must negotiate, is far from friendly.
I was just getting comfortable with Leon Panetta being more than a political hack appointee as he seemed to get "religion" while discussing the budget. He now shows his true colors and it is not pretty. Just another hack who will do his bosses bidding.
My constant rejoinder to anyone who insists that Israel negotiate is to ask--How many countries have been forced by other nations to negotiate with the country they defeated? The answer is only one--Israel. Did the US negotiate with Germany, Italy or Japan? Of course not. We won, they lost, we set the rules. Why is Israel being treated differently? Why does Obama treat Israel differently?
I would like to know what you think. Please comment and we will post all thoughtful, succinct, and respectful posts.
The post that follows is more on the rantings of our Secretary of Defense.
Conservative Tom
The Rantings of Leon Panetta, Surrogate for Barack Obama
By Jerome S. Kaufman
Barack Obama, via his mouthpiece, Leon Panetta, demands Israel commit suicide to please Obama’s Islamic friends and pursue his own anti-American foreign policy.
I could not believe my eyes and my ears as I watched TV and listened to Obama’s mouthpiece, US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta hysterically chastise and threaten Israel, our only real ally and fellow democracy in the Middle East. He shrieked at Israel as if this exemplary, hugely successful sovereign nation were an 8 year old boy that Panetta was about to take to the wood shed.
In remarks at a Brookings Institution conference, Panetta, in the most undiplomatic and disrespectful tones, called upon Israel to again start negotiations with the Palestinians. “Just get to the damn table” Panetta said during the event in Washington. “The problem right now is we can’t get them to the damn table to at least sit down and begin to discuss their differences.” He says Israel is becoming increasingly isolated and needs to ‘reach out and mend fences’ It’s not enough, he said, for Israel to rely on a strong military for security, diplomacy is also needed. Panetta said Israel could “reach out and mend fences” with countries such as Turkey, Egypt and Jordan, countries he said share an interest in stability in the Middle East.
Obviously, Panetta knows nothing about the history of the conflict, dating back well over a 100 years wherein the Arabs have never accepted the concept of a Jewish State or even one Jew in what they have deluded themselves into thinking is holy Islamic land. Instead they have done everything to make war on the Jews since the middle of the 19th century to prevent them from returning to their biblical homeland.
He and his mentor Obama obviously know nothing or more likely choose to ignore the fact that there have been severe regime changes in Turkey. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the man now in power, is a dedicated Islamist who despises the West, particularly Israel. Furthermore, the secular military that ran the country in favor of the west, has now been forced out of power.
In Egypt, Panetta and Obama have chosen to ignore the fact that the former Egyptian leader, Hosni Mubarak who was favorable to the US and Israel for the last 30 years is now on trial for his life and most likely will lose his head when the Muslim Brotherhood formally takes over, if not sooner. They also ignore the fact that a recent Pew Poll shows only 20% of Egyptians have a favorable view of America, 64% have no confidence in Obama (I’m with them) and 54% want to annul the peace treaty with Israel. (What a great time for Israel to give away more land!).
As to Jordan, you can bet your life that King Abdullah II prays for the ongoing support and strength of the Israelis. They have saved his life, his throne and that of his father, on several occasions. Without the Israelis backing him up, there is no doubt militant Islam with their huge resident belligerent Palestinian Arab population in Jordan behind them, will quickly take over his throne and place Abdullah’s head along side Hosni Mubarak’s on the chopping block.
At the end of his outburst, Panetta sugar coated his wood shed speech with the usual perfunctory lip-service remarks, which, at least in the past, have been sincerely spoken by previous American presidents. He emphasized that Israel will “always have the unshakeable backing of the United States.” Let us hope Israelis don’t hold their breath waiting for this backing to happen while Barack Obama is in the White House.
Obama’s true colors, lies and hypocrisy thus burst forth through the inane well planned destructive remarks of his obvious surrogate. By coincidence, In his usual narcissistic fog, Obama had just patted himself on the back as the “best Administration Israel ever had.” Most Israelis, especially, after this unveiling will take great exception to this self-evaluation. Unfortunately, the useful idiot American Jews that attended Obama’s fund raiser in the heart of New York the previous evening, appeared to believe him and continue to pour big bucks into his overflowing never-ending political campaign coffers.
But, the crucial decisions and actions always remain in the hands of the Israelis, not in the hands of the ranting Leon Panetta or in the obvious hatred, disdain and duplicity of Barack Obama. Let us pray that a far greater power guides the Israelis to ignore this self-destructive advice and steers them to a position of strength, action and self-reliance – the only condition the Arabs, the Islamists and the rest of the world understand.
I was just getting comfortable with Leon Panetta being more than a political hack appointee as he seemed to get "religion" while discussing the budget. He now shows his true colors and it is not pretty. Just another hack who will do his bosses bidding.
My constant rejoinder to anyone who insists that Israel negotiate is to ask--How many countries have been forced by other nations to negotiate with the country they defeated? The answer is only one--Israel. Did the US negotiate with Germany, Italy or Japan? Of course not. We won, they lost, we set the rules. Why is Israel being treated differently? Why does Obama treat Israel differently?
I would like to know what you think. Please comment and we will post all thoughtful, succinct, and respectful posts.
The post that follows is more on the rantings of our Secretary of Defense.
Conservative Tom
The Rantings of Leon Panetta, Surrogate for Barack Obama
By Jerome S. Kaufman
Barack Obama, via his mouthpiece, Leon Panetta, demands Israel commit suicide to please Obama’s Islamic friends and pursue his own anti-American foreign policy.
I could not believe my eyes and my ears as I watched TV and listened to Obama’s mouthpiece, US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta hysterically chastise and threaten Israel, our only real ally and fellow democracy in the Middle East. He shrieked at Israel as if this exemplary, hugely successful sovereign nation were an 8 year old boy that Panetta was about to take to the wood shed.
In remarks at a Brookings Institution conference, Panetta, in the most undiplomatic and disrespectful tones, called upon Israel to again start negotiations with the Palestinians. “Just get to the damn table” Panetta said during the event in Washington. “The problem right now is we can’t get them to the damn table to at least sit down and begin to discuss their differences.” He says Israel is becoming increasingly isolated and needs to ‘reach out and mend fences’ It’s not enough, he said, for Israel to rely on a strong military for security, diplomacy is also needed. Panetta said Israel could “reach out and mend fences” with countries such as Turkey, Egypt and Jordan, countries he said share an interest in stability in the Middle East.
Obviously, Panetta knows nothing about the history of the conflict, dating back well over a 100 years wherein the Arabs have never accepted the concept of a Jewish State or even one Jew in what they have deluded themselves into thinking is holy Islamic land. Instead they have done everything to make war on the Jews since the middle of the 19th century to prevent them from returning to their biblical homeland.
He and his mentor Obama obviously know nothing or more likely choose to ignore the fact that there have been severe regime changes in Turkey. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the man now in power, is a dedicated Islamist who despises the West, particularly Israel. Furthermore, the secular military that ran the country in favor of the west, has now been forced out of power.
In Egypt, Panetta and Obama have chosen to ignore the fact that the former Egyptian leader, Hosni Mubarak who was favorable to the US and Israel for the last 30 years is now on trial for his life and most likely will lose his head when the Muslim Brotherhood formally takes over, if not sooner. They also ignore the fact that a recent Pew Poll shows only 20% of Egyptians have a favorable view of America, 64% have no confidence in Obama (I’m with them) and 54% want to annul the peace treaty with Israel. (What a great time for Israel to give away more land!).
As to Jordan, you can bet your life that King Abdullah II prays for the ongoing support and strength of the Israelis. They have saved his life, his throne and that of his father, on several occasions. Without the Israelis backing him up, there is no doubt militant Islam with their huge resident belligerent Palestinian Arab population in Jordan behind them, will quickly take over his throne and place Abdullah’s head along side Hosni Mubarak’s on the chopping block.
At the end of his outburst, Panetta sugar coated his wood shed speech with the usual perfunctory lip-service remarks, which, at least in the past, have been sincerely spoken by previous American presidents. He emphasized that Israel will “always have the unshakeable backing of the United States.” Let us hope Israelis don’t hold their breath waiting for this backing to happen while Barack Obama is in the White House.
Obama’s true colors, lies and hypocrisy thus burst forth through the inane well planned destructive remarks of his obvious surrogate. By coincidence, In his usual narcissistic fog, Obama had just patted himself on the back as the “best Administration Israel ever had.” Most Israelis, especially, after this unveiling will take great exception to this self-evaluation. Unfortunately, the useful idiot American Jews that attended Obama’s fund raiser in the heart of New York the previous evening, appeared to believe him and continue to pour big bucks into his overflowing never-ending political campaign coffers.
But, the crucial decisions and actions always remain in the hands of the Israelis, not in the hands of the ranting Leon Panetta or in the obvious hatred, disdain and duplicity of Barack Obama. Let us pray that a far greater power guides the Israelis to ignore this self-destructive advice and steers them to a position of strength, action and self-reliance – the only condition the Arabs, the Islamists and the rest of the world understand.
You write, "Did the US negotiate with Germany, Italy or Japan? Of course not. We won, they lost, we set the rules. Why is Israel being treated differently?"
ReplyDeleteThe reason the WWII model does not apply is that the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is not a conventional war between sovereign nations, fought with conventional armies, ending with a conventional peace treaty. The Palestinians have been defeated militarily over and over, but will not "surrender" and sign a "peace treaty." Furthermore, as I told you last week, no matter how much bombing Israel does in Gaza, it will always be possible for some angry individual or small group in Gaza to launch a mortar into Israel.
Is the two-state solution feasible at this time? I agree with you that it is not. Nevertheless, that has been the official diplomatic proposal not only of Obama, but also of Bush, Clinton, and previous presidents back to Carter. To suggest that Obama is proposing anything substantively different than his predecessors is factually incorrect.
This article you posted is an extreme misrepresentation of the tone and content of Panetta's speech. The "Just get to the damn table" statement was a single statement that wasn't even in his speech. It was an off-the-cuff quip at the very end of the Q&A following his speech, and was aimed at both the Israelis and the Palestinians (there and during the speech where he touched on the need for both sides to resume talks).
His entire speech was focused on 3 things the Obama administration is committed to in support of Israel…
1. Israel's military security.
2. Regional stability.
3. Iran and nuclear weapons.
This guy either did not watch Panetta's speech, or else he is deliberately misrepresenting it in some attempt to portray Obama as anti-Israel despite the U.S. consistent support of Israel in opposition to the Palestinians at the U.N., military weapons sales to Israel (including the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter), the largest-ever joint military training exercises between the U.S. and Israeli military, etc., defense of foreign aid to Israel in the current U.S. budget negotiations in Congress. He talked about all this.
He said he will work with whatever new government emerges in Egypt to ensure they honor their treaty with Israel. He is going to Turkey soon to encourage them to cooperate more with Israel. And so on….
Watch his whole speech and judge for yourself...
http://www.livestream.com/sabanforum2011/video?clipId=pla_8a85e34e-bccb-470c-9f4b-da244c0b9cf2