The lawsuit against NBC is proceeding. Will Zimmerman win? Probably, will this be end of his legal problems, probably not. Even though President Obama suggested yesterday that "we need to move on", we doubt that the Justice Department will let the matter drop. In fact, we expect to hear that Federal charges are being levied against the former neighborhood watchman within weeks, if not before.
Holder made a statement today that they were going to "look into the matter" and determine if there were any violations of Trayvon Martin's rights. We believe they will find some. Whether they make them out of whole cloth or invent some, they will charge him.
Remember Los Angeles and Rodney King, the LA cops were acquitted and then charged under Federal law and lost big time. This case will be no different especially since the President made it clear that if he had a son "he would look like Trayvon". Additionally all the normal race hustlers (Sharpton, Jackson etal) are out there demanding "justice for Trayvon." It is a foregone conclusion.
Zimmerman will need the victory over NBC to pay for his upcoming Federal charges.
Conservative Tom
Zimmerman to Press on With NBC Defamation Case
Monday, 15 Jul 2013 11:27 AM
With his acquittal in hand, George Zimmerman plans to resume his defamation lawsuit against NBC News for its coverage of the call he made to police the night he came face-to-face with 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
The neighborhood-watch volunteer contends the network's March 27, 2012 "Today" broadcast painted him as a racist by editing out significant portions of the discussion he had with police, The Washington Post reports.
NBC's abridged version of the conversation stated that Zimmerman told police, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."
The full tape of the call went like this:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
Zimmerman started the lawsuit against NBC in December, but the case was put on hold pending the outcome of his trial. At the time, NBC pointed out that other media outlets had also played up the racial angle of the conversation.
Last year NBC News' then-President Steve Capus called the edit "a mistake and not a deliberate act to misrepresent the phone call," and said disciplinary action had been taken against the people involved.
James Beasley, a Philadelphia-based attorney representing Zimmerman in the case told the Washington Post, "We're going to start in earnest asap."
Asked whether the innocent verdict in favor of his client would affect the NBC civil case, Beasley said, "This verdict of not guilty is just that, and shows that at least this jury didn't believe that George was a racist, profiling, or anything that the press accused George of being.
"That probably doesn't get you that much but it's simply time for us to start the case and hold accountable anyone who is irresponsible in their journalism," he added.
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Let me re-post my question here: Would Zimmerman have followed Martin if Martin were a clean-cut white teen walking on a public sidewalk? Is having black skin sufficient to make somebody a suspect that Zimmerman can follow, stop, and interrogate? Should Zimmerman have stayed at his car when told to do so by police?
ReplyDeleteI think the jury made the right decision, but these questions remain to be answer. Based on the forensic evidence, I believe Zimmerman was justified in his self-defense claim, but he was nonetheless responsible for creating the situation in the first place. There is no evidence that Martin was doing anything illegal or suspicious, and even if he were, it was the job of the police -- not Zimmerman and his gun -- to confront him. What is your opinion on that?
--David
First of all this was a gated community and not a public street. Secondly Zimmerman thought the person might have been black but was not sure.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Trayvon attack Zimmerman instead of talk to him and explain that he was going to his father's house. He never did that.
Trayvon was wandering around and acting suspiciously. He brought this onto himself.
By the way, why won't those who are using this as a racial crisis, not accept that this case was not proven by the prosecutors and that they did not have the information to make the conviction?
Can a black kid be inside a gated community walking home without getting harassed by Zimmerman?
ReplyDelete"Secondly Zimmerman thought the person might have been black but was not sure."
Not true. Read the police transcript. Zimmerman says, "He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male." No doubt about it. So, my question remains, do you think Zimmerman would have followed Martin if he were a clean-cut white kid?
"Why did Trayvon attack Zimmerman instead of talk to him and explain that he was going to his father's house. He never did that."
We don't know that. We only have Zimmerman's story. There was no evidence at trial even as to who threw the first punch. Nobody saw it happen.
"Trayvon was wandering around and acting suspiciously. He brought this onto himself."
We don't know that, either. Zimmerman has a history of calling police when he sees blacks in the neighborhood. That is a matter of public record. It will come out in the civil suit.
"By the way, why won't those who are using this as a racial crisis, not accept that this case was not proven by the prosecutors and that they did not have the information to make the conviction?"
Because they are emotionally involved. I think an objective person can watch the forensic expert's testimony and conclude that Zimmerman has a plausible case for self-defense. Before the trial even started, that was the only evidence I considered reliable, and it was clearly presented. The prosecution could not refute it.
--David
Before you judge Zimmerman one must understand the neighborhood that he was watching. It is near a bad area. There were a number of break ins and thefts which was the reason for the watch. Trayvon was walking through, acting strange and that is what attracted Zimmerman.
ReplyDeleteThis trial should never had occurred. But now the Justice Department will make sure that Zimmerman will pay!
We only have Zimmerman's story that Martin was acting strangely. You still have not answered my question. Do you think Zimmerman would have followed Martin if he were a white kid? Yes or no? As I said, Zimmerman has a history of calling police when he sees blacks in the neighborhood. I think the family has a reasonable chance of winning the civil suit. I doubt there will ever be a federal case against Zimmerman, for reasons stated in the article. They would have to prove state-of-mind to win. This is probably going to be another of your failed Obama predictions.
ReplyDeleteI heard that the U.S. Supreme Court is going to take the case of Obama's recess appointments to his cabinet. Do you think Obama has any interest in the outcome of that case? Just curious. If it breaks 5-4, it counts for the Roberts project.
--David
I believe that Zimmerman would have followed anyone, regardless of age, sex, color, religion who looked out of place and was acting strangely. He has said this over and over and knowing what we know about the neighborhood and the crime that had occurred, I believe that everyone who was not part of the normal, would (and probably should) have been followed.
ReplyDeleteThe evidence indicates that Trayvon was shot at very close distance (like 4 inches) which corroborates his story that he was on the bottom being pummeled and decided that he had to do something to save his own life.
Okay, are you going to allow the government's appeal on Obama's recess appointments to count in our Roberts project? Or will you tell me Obama has no interest in his own appointments getting made?
ReplyDelete--David
Not important enough, sorry chum.
ReplyDeletet
Well, in your mind, there is probably nothing that could realistically get to the SC before 2016 that would qualify for the Roberts project -- not Texas affirmative action case, not the Voting Rights Act, not even Obama's own cabinet appointments that will remain filibustered unless Reid gets some nerve.
ReplyDeleteOh well, you never did tell me why you think Obama and Roberts are such great friends, particularly in the wake of Obama voting against Roberts confirmation when he was in the Senate, or criticizing Roberts opinion in Citizens United to his face and publicly in the state of the union address. That doesn't strike me as the kind of actions that would endear Obama to a conservative judge like Roberts. Right?
Personally, I subscribe to the "inoculation theory" of Roberts vote on ACA, and history is proving me entirely correct so far. This will continue for the next 20+ years, or however long he remains on the SC.
--David