Holder will not resign, his boss does not have the guts to sack a fellow African american! Who has Obama fired, only white males? We cannot remember anyone other than Caucasians who have been asked to resign and most were military personnel. The latest firing was of the IRS official who already was planning to retire. Can you think of any?
Does the President have a blind spot to anyone except Caucasians? We would like to know what you think.
Conservative Tom
Holder Says He Won't Step Down, Has 'Great Respect' for Journalists
Wednesday, 05 Jun 2013 07:19 PM
"There's some things that I want to do, some things that I want to get done that I’ve discussed with the president, and once I have finished that I'll sit down with him and we’ll determine when it’s time to make a transition to a new attorney general," Holder told NBC's Pete Williams in an exclusive interview.
"But to be clear, you’re not stepping down now?" Williams pressed.
"No, I have no intention of doing so now," Holder replied.
A number of prominent Republican lawmakers have called for Holder’s resignation in recent weeks and some White House advisers have expressed frustration over Holder's apparent inability to have foreseen problems arising from his approval of a subpoena naming Fox News’ James Rosen as a possible co-conspirator in an espionage investigation.
Holder has become a lightning rod for criticism over the Justice Department's decision to subpoena the phone records of 100 Associated Press reporters and editors in another polarizing leak investigation.
The top lawman in the U.S. said the aggressive crackdown on leaks was not the result of a policy decision, but rather demands from the intelligence community and Congress.
"I'm a little concerned that things have gotten a little out of whack," he said. "I think we can do a better job than we have. We can reform those regulations, reform those guidelines to better reflect that balance."
The Justice Department obtained Rosen's phone and email records to investigate the leak of sensitive intelligence about North Korea, describing the journalist as an aider, abettor, or co-conspirator at the very least — a phrase that Holder maintains was needed to obtain the search warrant.
"I don't like that because it means that me as a government official, who has great respect for the press, is in essence saying that a reporter who is doing his or her job — and doing that very important job — is somehow branded a criminal, and I’m just not comfortable with that. We’re going to change that."
Williams said another possible change would be to give the news media a chance to fight a request for records in court before they are turned over.
"We'll come up with ways in which notification can be given to the media, and possibly involve on a more consistent basis, judges as third-party arbiters," Holder said.
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What do I think about Holder? Recalling Clarence Thomas, the words "high-tech lynching" come to mind. Let's skip the polemics and get down to FACTS on this blog for a change. Make your case against Holder. Please tell me…
ReplyDelete1. What law(s) has he violated as Atty. General?
2. What factual evidence (not innuendo, speculation, conjecture), but FACTS that would hold up in court do you have to support your allegations? Like Issa, you will now say something like, "Well, um, I have no real evidence, but I know it's got to be there somewhere."
--David
1. He authorized sending guns to Mexican gun lords in Fast and Furious which ended up killing hundreds of Mexicans and several Americans including Brian Terry, the border guard.
ReplyDelete1. He authorized, by his signature, that a reporter was a co-spirator with a government employee. The reporter did not conspire to get the documents, he was given them.
You can ignore the signs and the facts are coming out. To expect this blogger to have intimate information regarding the investigation is ludicrous at best. All we can rely upon is the news media and investigators to bring out the facts. If we are wrong we will say so, however, at this point, where there is smoke there usually is fire. Holder is sending smoke signals, we do have a fire and we will find out soon that we are right.
I asked you what law Holder has violated. You gave none. I asked what facts you have to support the allegation, you gave none.
ReplyDeleteHave you reviewed the (512pp.) OIG report on Fast&Furious? Here is their key statement about where it started and who was responsible…
"Our review of Operation Fast and Furious and related matters revealed a series of misguided strategies, tactics, errors in judgment, and management failures that permeated ATF Headquarters and the Phoenix Field Division, as well as the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Arizona. In this report, we described deficiencies in two operations conducted in ATF's Phoenix Field Division between 2006 and 2010 – Operation Wide Receiver and Operation Fast and Furious. In the course of our review we identified individuals ranging from line agents and prosecutors in Phoenix and Tucson to senior ATF officials in Washington, D.C., who bore a share of responsibility for ATF's knowing failure in both these operations to interdict firearms illegally destined for Mexico, and for doing so without adequately taking into account the danger to public safety that flowed from this risky strategy."
Regarding Holder, the report states ( page 297), "We found no evidence that Attorney General Holder was informed about Operation Fast and Furious, or learned about the tactics employed by ATF in the investigation, prior to January 31, 2011."
That takes care of Fast&Furious.
Regarding Rosen, I have already quoted the law that authorizes DOJ to pursue the warrant on anybody, including reporters, in cases involving unauthorized release of TS/SCI documents under section 703. As Holder said today, the law REQUIRES that Rosen be designated as possible "aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator" in the warrant. Having read the evidence in the FBI affidavit, my conclusion is that he is definitely an "abettor". Legally, a conspiracy is defined as an "agreement between people to commit a crime." There is sufficient "probable cause" in the affidavit to justify the conclusion that there may have been a conspiracy between Rosen and Kim to commit the crime for which Kim and been charged. That is all that is required for the warrant to be issued. Obviously, the "liberal" judge (appointed to the federal court by George W. Bush) agrees with me.
--David
A little more on Rosen. The cover sheet of the warrant states the purpose of the search under Fed. R. Crim. P. 419(c)
ReplyDelete>evidence of a crime
>…items illegally possessed
>property…used in committing a crime
Rosen's possession of TS/SCI documents meets all three of these, because it is illegal for Kim to transmit these documents to him under 18 U.S.C. section 793.
Are you ever going to comment on this??
--David
The only reason that Rosen was included in the request for warrant was that that was the only reason the Judge would give them the warrant. This whole incident stinks to high heaven.
ReplyDeleteWhat in the world are you talking about? The reason Rosen was in the request for warrant is that it was Rosen's records that warrant seeks to obtain!
ReplyDeleteThe reason the FBI affidavit refers to him as a "possible aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator" is that evidence of probable cause that he is one or more of these is required BY LAW in order to obtain the warrant. The DOJ was not violating any law. On the contrary, they were complying with this law. The evidence presented in the FBI affidavit established probable cause in my opinion and the judge's. Have you read the affidavit yet? If you ever do, you will give up this argument.
No retort to my facts on Fast&Furious? Hopefully, we can at least agree on a Holder not guilty verdict on that, unless you can ever come up with some real facts to refute the OIG report.
The only thing that stinks to high heaven is this hatchet-job Issa & Co. are trying to do on Holder. Even Republicans are now warning him about his unsubstantiated accusations. This is going to backfire on them politically.
Now, if you want to talk about a REAL scandal that you and I may agree on, it is this PRISM program NSA is doing. I have just started reading about it, but apparently it has been going on secretly since 2007 and Congress knew about it. Unbelievable!
Here is the original story...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
--David
The only way to get the warrant was to falsely accuse an innocent reporter with being a co-spirator. Bad!
ReplyDeleteWe discussed the Prism program before.
That is incorrect in several respects:
ReplyDelete1. He was not "accused" of any crime in the warrant. You are confusing a warrant application with a criminal indictment. A criminal indictment charges him with a crime, the police arrest him in handcuffs, and he goes to jail pending arraignment. By contrast, the warrant presented an FBI affidavit that he might POSSIBLY been involved in a crime and seeks access to his records under Fed. R. Crim. P. 419(c) for:
A. evidence of a crime
B. items illegally possessed
C property…used in committing a crime
That is the exact language of the Rule. Rosen receiving TS/SCI documents satisfies all three conditions. Also, the warrant doesn't have to prove a crime. It only needs to provide enough evidence to establish probable cause. This warrant does that in spades.
2. The affidavit does not "name Rosen as a co-conspirator" (contrary to David Gregory and you). If you guys would take the trouble to actually READ the FBI affidavit, you would know that it says "possible aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator". You guys conveniently chop off everything except the last word.
3. Is he innocent? If he had said, "Would you please send me some TS/SCI documents?" that would clearly constitute conspiracy to commit a crime under 793. He isn't that stupid. Instead, he skirted around it, asking for CIA "intelligence" and "memos." That would make it difficult to prove in court. However, Alan Dershowitz -- a better lawyer than you or me -- said on TV yesterday that illegally possessing TS/SCI documents is itself a crime, regardless how you got them. I don't know. In any event, DOJ has no interest in charging Rosen, because Kim is their primary target.
--David
P.S. We have not discussed PRISM before. It's existence was not publicly known until yesterday.