What would happen if the President Elect and Vice President Elect could not serve due to death, disability, infirmity or other issue preventing him/her from taking their place at the Inauguration? It is obvious that the 25th Amendment would take effect after the Oath of Office had been administrated. But what happens if the issue arises between the election and January 20? Would/could the standing President a) stay in office until a new election was held and a new leadership team be inaugurated b) Allow the Speaker of the House to become President c) move to have his position become permanent?
The Amendment dealing with this issue (the 25th) does not address the issue of assumption of power between between the election and the inauguration. It only discusses a standing President. Here is what the Amendment says as reported in Wikipedia::
The text of the 25th Amendment:
Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.
Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.[3]
If something were to happen to Trump and Mike Pence, would President Obama choose a road not travelled before? We fear so. If given the choice, Obama would stay in office (as he feels he deserves being there for a third term), saying he would hold elections at a point in the future--which, like Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, will never happen.
Maybe this explains some of the moves he has made recently. The NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) which now allows the Pentagon to judge what news is real and what is fake. Like the Pentagon has never or could never be politicized. It would be nice to have someone on your side deciding to stomp on real news and only put out the "company line" ala the old Soviet News Agency, Pravda.
It also explains the tenor of his actions against Israel. Obama has emasculated Israel in the world's view. It is no longer in charge of its future, the UN (and Obama) is. It would show he has the power to hurt any country that does not agree with him.
He has pardoned 3-4 times as many criminals serving sentences than any other President. Are these his shock troops and/ or a dependable voting block?
The talk of war with Russia, trying to put Putin back in his box. He is trying to do things that he has not done in his entire administration.That of being strong. This change of tactics makes us wonder what is going on at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
And we still have 20 days to go before our fears go away. That is a lot of time to do damage.
For those of us who thought that the worst was over when Trump was elected, it appears as if Obama was not thinking the same way. We fear (and hope we are wrong) that the President has other things up his sleeve and will not leave the Presidency the way the Constitution prescribes. Let's hope that we just had a bad dream and the transition is seamless!
Conservative Tom
King Obama? Would he Have Been Able to Beat Trump?
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In an interview with David Axlerod, President Obama made it clear that he believes he would have won the election if he had run against Donald Trump instead of Hillary Clinton. Trump in one of his famous tweets begged to differ. So the question stand – would Barack Obama have been able to crown himself King Obama in a third term?
During the podcast with his former White House adviser Obama said, “I am confident in this vision because I’m confident that if I had run again and articulated it, I think I could’ve mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it.”
Trump’s reply in his tweet was, “President Obama said that he thinks he would have won against me. He should say that but I say NO WAY! — jobs leaving, ISIS, OCare, etc.”
During this last month of Hillary Clinton’s failed run for the presidency, Democrats banked on the fact that Obama’s name and record would ensure her the win. But, they couldn’t have been more wrong.
In a number of post-election interviews, Obama insisted that Clinton’s resounding loss is not a rejection of his policies or vision for America. Instead, he argues that the Clinton campaign failed to take advantage of the willing coalition he had put together across the country.
“I am confident in this vision because I’m confident that if I — if I had run again and articulated it — I think I could’ve mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it,” the president said.
Obama blames a lack of communication of what he has done for the country as the problem. “See, I think the issue was less that Democrats have somehow abandoned the white working class, I think that’s nonsense,” Obama said.
“Look, the Affordable Care Act benefits a huge number of Trump voters. There are a lot of folks in places like West Virginia or Kentucky who didn’t vote for Hillary, didn’t vote for me, but are being helped by this . . . The problem is, is that we’re not there on the ground communicating not only the dry policy aspects of this, but that we care about these communities, that we’re bleeding for these communities.”
In spite of the fact the 22nd Amendment of the Constitution states that “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice,” Obama gave political pundits reason to debate a non-issue.
Former House speaker Newt Gingrich reacted to Obama’s claim by saying, “Obama doesn’t know and neither does anyone else. Obama would have increased the turnout in the African-American community, but he also might have increased the repudiation of him among those who felt they were betrayed. All of the lies he told about Obamacare, ‘keeping your doctor’ . . . would have come back to haunt him. It would have been a totally different race.”
Obama’s assertion that he would win a hypothetical race against Trump is not as certain as he states. Rove said, “I’m not certain if I were President Obama I would be glibly saying ‘I would have won,’ particularly when you read the rest of the interview,” he says, ‘Oh, we were doing great things for rural America and they benefited from the Affordable Care Act, and we really, you know we really did a lot of things for working-class white voters. The economy was getting so much better.'” This is not how people perceived the Affordable Care Act, or the Obama economy, or really even the impact of all of his policies.”
Obama seems to be ignoring the realities of this past election. It is working-class white voters who voted for Trump in record numbers. Middle-class voters of all races have had enough of Obama’s failed agendas. This was no more evident than in Trump’s wins in states that have voted historically Democratic like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
Over the past few weeks, Obama has become less and less conciliatory. Trump’s picks for Cabinet-level positions make it obvious he plans to dismantle much of what Obama has accomplished. Trump’s team’s requests for the names of bureaucrats who have worked on Obama priorities like climate change have led liberals to fears he will remove those people from their positions.
Those who voted for Trump, applaud his determination to keep his campaign promises. Those who pine for a King Obama should look at the general election map again. This is still a red country.
~ American Liberty Report
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