Monday, February 27, 2017
This Blows Away The Argument That NO Illegal Aliens Voted In 2016!
The press mantra has been that NO illegal aliens voted in the past election and that anyone who said so was nuts, delusional or just outright lying. We have never believed the assertion that voters who were not qualified did not vote. They voted for a couple reasons.
First, the checks on our voting systems are weak. Most states do not require an ID to vote, yet to collect Welfare and other benefits as well as cashing a check, getting on an airplane and doing most other activities in life, an ID must be presented. Therefore, not presenting an ID is not an impediment to voting in the least. Why not vote if you identity is not going to be checked?
Check this out:
"As of December 2016, 31 states enforced voter identification requirements. A total of 16 states required voters to present photo identification, while 15 accepted other forms of identification. Commonly accepted forms of ID include driver licenses, state-issued identification cards, and military identification cards."Dec 9, 2016
Secondly, this was an election that had emotions running high on both sides. However, illegal aliens wanted Hillary to win as she would not have stopped the wholesale unlimited immigration that we experienced as a country during the Obama regime. It only makes logical sense that illegals would have done everything in their power to vote to help ensure their candidate win. So why would they not vote especially in states that do not require voter id.
As far as Ohio goes, they do not require a picture ID so they are one of the 15 states that require some other form of identification. Also from ballotpedia: "On Election Day at the polling place, Ohio law requires that every voter announce his or her full name and current address. Additionally, voters must provide some form of identification. A photo ID is not required" How do we know that there were not millions voting illegally?
The "indepth" study by Ohio left out some voters who might have voted. From the following article: "However, it should be noted that the Ohio study did not purport to exhaustively examine other kinds of potentially illegal voting, including votes by felons or votes cast on behalf of deceased individuals, both of which have been implicated by Trump and other Republicans as possible sources of voter fraud." So dead people and felons could have voted and no one would be aware?
As far as Jon Husted, yes he is a Republican, but he has gone on record to say that there is no evidence of the issue to which Trump referred. Here is the article: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2017/01/25/ohio-secretary-of-state-jon-husted-on-trumps-unsupported-illegal-voting-claims-no-evidence-to-support-any-of-those-concerns. So is he telling the truth or protecting his butt? We vote for the latter.
Nationwide we have 19 states without any voter ID. How easy would it be to fraudulently vote? Easy as pie. There is nothing preventing an illegal, a dead person or anyone else from voting once, twice or twenty times. And how would you prove that this person did vote multiple times, this is a problem.
If one could get a real indepth study, without political influence, we believe that Trump's estimate of those who voted illegally will come out to be very low. However, that will never happen so ours is another tilting at wind mills adventure.
This is the way the American people will lose their franchise to vote. When illegals, felons, and dead people vote and change who will be our leaders through fraud, it imperils the representative government that have inherited. If the trend continues, the average citizen's input will be erased by the illegals, felon and dead people who voted against the will of the people which would have happened in the past election had it not been for the Electoral College.
Of course, now the proponents of illegal voting will try to do away with the Electoral College, to help them undermine our voting system. By the way, these are leftists and not the Russians!
So next time you vote, realize this is an important civic duty that should be restricted to citizens, only!
Ohio Secretary of State concludes investigation; here’s how many non-citizen votes were cast in 2016
In this Oct. 27, 2016, file photo, Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted drops off his early voting ballot at the Franklin County Board of Elections in Columbus, Ohio. Husted's office has just announced the results of an investigation into illegal voting in Ohio. (AP Photo/Jay LaPrete, File)
Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted (R) has announced that his office has conducted an exhaustive review of the voting records in Ohio and that 821 non-citizens were illegally registered to vote in the Buckeye State. However, according to voting records, only 126 of those non-citizens have actually cast a vote in the three most recent elections, including a total of 82 who voted in 2016 elections in Ohio.
According to WCMH-TV, registered non-citizens who were not found to have cast an actual vote received a letter demanding that they cancel their voter registrations or face criminal penalties. The 126 non-citizens who were found to have actually voted in the most recent elections were immediately referred to law enforcement for investigation and possible prosecution. Husted’s office noted, WCMH reported:
“I have a responsibility to preserve the integrity of Ohio’s elections system,” Secretary Husted said. “When you consider that in Ohio we have had 112 elections decided by one vote or tied in the last three years, every case of illegal voting must be taken seriously and elections officials must have every resource available to them to respond accordingly.”
Husted added that none of the the cases where a non-citizen cast a ballot occurred in jurisdictions where an election was decided by one vote or tied.
Overall, 5,536,528 votes were cast in the presidential election in Ohio in 2016, which means that an almost infinitesimal portion (less than .002 percent) of the total votes were cast by non-citizens in Ohio.
The subject of voter fraud, and the extent of its pervasiveness, has long been a subject of contention between Republicans and Democrats. However, the issue has taken on new importance in light of President Donald Trump’s oft-repeated (but unverified) claim that “millions” of illegal votes were cast in 2016. Trump has repeated the claim in order to minimize the perceived political importance of his popular vote loss.
Trump has publicly asked for a nationwide investigation of voter fraud and mused aloud that the effort should perhaps be led by Vice President Mike Pence, but it is unclear at this point what concrete steps have been undertaken to begin such an undertaking, if any. The analysis conducted by Husted is thus far the largest sample of its kind that has been taken with respect to the 2016 vote and would seem to suggest that, in at least one large swing state, illegal voting was not nearly as prevalent as Trump has suggested.
However, it should be noted that the Ohio study did not purport to exhaustively examine other kinds of potentially illegal voting, including votes by felons or votes cast on behalf of deceased individuals, both of which have been implicated by Trump and other Republicans as possible sources of voter fraud.